Touch Ranger Nerf Idea

Easiest win ever? Kiting is fun.

apparently someone that hasnt been on the receiving end of a touch ranger that needs at least 4 people to be killed when you aren't a caster...

Someone that understands.

My assasin basically uses a touch skill (Plague Touch) but thats about it, I prefer to snare and kill and play ping pong with a W/N and plague touch.

Fight fire with gasoline?? the problem is that touch rangers builds are getting ABUSED and overused on Alliance Battles. and is a waste of time and energy to kill one (u need at least 3 people to actually kill one of those guys)

But Touch Rangers spam them non-stop, just fire your Distracting Shot blindly and you are pretty much guaranteed to hit one of their touches ...

Ultra-mega-mega touch ranger nerf idea:

All touch spells cause massive exhaustion.

4 people? o.o And besides... what teams don't have casters? Maybe in RA, but nerfing something because it's overused in RA is the dumbest thing ever.

So now it's 3 people to kill one. Someone's figures are shifting. >.> Allliance Battle = bigger Random Arena. Anyway, the ways to deal with touchers have been listed throughout this thread. Read them. No need for a nerf.

...No. Just no.

What they ought to do is simply delete all the skill duplicates. Unless I'm missing someting critical here, it seems like the more intelligent way to make Factions a stand-alone game would have been to simply make the core skills (that ANet wanted to make available to them) available to them! Hot diggety damn!

If Vamp Touch = Prophesies, and
If Vamp Bite = Factions, and
If Vamp Touch = Vamp Bite...

Why not simply make Vamp Touch available in Factions (instead of basically building in a free Elite Echo for these builds)? I MUST be missing something, because I'd like to believe there's a good reason for this blatant stupidity. Feel free to fill me in.

-Jessyi

3 people.... to kill a touch ranger... ok... someone wake this person up

A/Mo with knockdowns
Any W/X with Wild Blow
Any Ele who knows how to kite
E-Denial Mesmer with mind wrack
Degen Mesmers/Necros who know how to kite
Trapper Ranger with barbed trap minimum.

R/N have no hex removals....

Everything except for the first one (which is my own special build against them^^) are commonly used. 3 people? hah!

this arguing reminds me a lot about the iway threads...

Life stealing is not damage.

if it walks like a duck...

Yeah seriously. Read between the lines.

If a skill does not do damage, why should it be an attack skill? Perhaps the two of you should try to piece two and two together.

Meh, they're really not that overpowered. They have no way of countering enemy healing, the slightest touch of monkage and that ncie high DPS is irrelevant. They have no effective way of healing themselves unless they are actively touching someone... so snare them or edenial them. Defensively, most just have whirling D, which is up 20 out of 60 seconds or so, leaving a big window where they're essentially a squishy in front line combat. Vamp bite certainly makes them better than they were when they alternated vamp touch and touch of agony, but they're hardly invincible. People are just upset because the almighty wammo is worthless against them.

EDIT: Can you name an attack skill that doesn't use a weapon? Maybe there's a reason for that...

Touch rangers are not even slightly overpowered to my opinion. About the only way you CAN get killed by a touch ranger is if you don't see it coming. which you should since does when do a Ranger get up close to attack other then laying traps?

/not signed

Actually, it works for "skills" which is why people trap. Without it you'd need an ele for trapping -.-

Whining about touch rangers = Person got pwnt by touch rangers and can't be bothered to learn simple counters to glass cannons.

Sheesh, people. I play touch ranger in PVE, because it's *fun*. Any decent PVP team can handle any of the glass cannon builds, or they don't deserve to win.

Traps are excused from my argument because Expertise says: "attack skills, traps and preparations". Vamp Touch and Bite are 'skills' therefore Expertise shouldn't include them.

I whine about technicalities

e-denial + snare and degen will stop ANY build. We are being forced to use a cookie cutter build to balance a creative build. That being said -- let me point out that I use a cookie cutter build, but i feel bad about this...

Simple idea, change vampiric touch/bite so rather than life steal it deal x damge and you gain x health(x being the same), this meanss that it will be affected by armour and trigger prot spells like rof and prot spirit. Maybe even up the damage to compensate for lost damage from armour. Touchers have been around for ages it is the addition of the duplicates like bite that have caused masses of them.

Quoted for truth

If your team cant figure out that you can just...you know...kite or deal with a touch ranger then yeah you deserve to lose. Touchers have been around for a while so it's not really a new build.

And since when did ppl take alliance battles seriously? o.o