sorry, but this sounds really bad indeed... "no regular group will do this ever".. d0000d, get real lol
I havent given a full party a go yet, will do so today evening i hope. what stunned me is that one guildie said he can solo the first 2 groups of dredge (he admitted its very hard and quite improbable, but hes done it). well, i did try his idea, but it seemed even worse than Racthohs aatxe soloing guide..
give this a month or two, and itll be quite easy to be beaten... ofc itll require preparation and discussion, but still..