Is there going to be alot of ebaying in guild wars?

You know, since guild wars is being published by NCsoft and NCsoft lets ebaying run rampant, i guess we can expect alot of ebaying going on in guild wars. ive basically given up my vendetta against ebaying, its all over games now. and I guess ill have to spend 30 bucks in guild wars to get anywhere in the game. But all is well, guild wars is a very fun game and i guess you make up for the spent money ebaying by having no monthly fee, right?

Since Arena.net said their will be no "Uber" items, I don't think there will be too much ebaying. People will still do it, but soon they'll find out that it's not worth it. Arena.net has stated that they want to make a game that valued skill over time played, meaning they shouldn't have some "Super Atomic Bomb Sword" that only people who have played 999 hours can obtain.

GW is Arenanets baby.I really don't think ebaying will be rampant as it is with other games.

I see ebay having a lesser, but still significant role in Guild Wars than other games. There are still top notch, hard to find rares in the game, and as long as that's the case such items will have a noteworthy cash value.

The new unlocking system helps to fight this in many respects - each player has access to very good but not quite ideal weapons, which kills what would be a significant problem before it becomes one. On the other hand, it creates an ebay market for unidentified rares, particularly salvage items - I can see unidentified, rare Giant's Boots becoming a staple currency of sorts. Unlocking everything is going to be non-trivial, and people will clearly be looking for shortcuts.

How relevant this ends up being depends entirely on how scarce the top notch stuff ends up being. I have the feeling that the economy is going to be a work in progress up until and even after release. So I'll reserve judgement on the significance of ebay until I see what things look like in retail.

Peace,
-CxE

There is no such thing as a game with no "uber" drops. The most rare drop is by nature the uber drop.

No, it's just the rarest drop. Demon Machine was a rarer drop in D2 than Buriza, but no one would say it was more uber. Uber has little if anything to do with rarity...

I agree Dreamsmith

uber:
The ultimate, above all, the best, top, something that nothing is better than

From urban dictionary, we're using it in the ultimate sense:

There are no real ultimate weapons in this game for example.

Lansing Kai Don

P.S. Instead of posting again, yes, taranis I did. But I think we use it differently for games (like dawg doesn't mean dog necessarily). I guess if you want to use it as over (say over), or if you want to use it as rare (say rare), but if you want to use it instead of Ultimate Beyond Even Recognition... then use uber to shorten it up a bit.

Do you guys even know that "Über" is german and means Over?? Every MMORPG(yet CORPG) got ebay'ers, even if they're just selling accounts...

Yes, sort of. A lot of words in different languages have overlapping meanings but also cover areas that other doesn't. It's almost never as simple as "X in some language means Y in English". That's why the fish often delivers very funny webpage translations. Words just don't translate between languages that cleanly.

"Uber" can mean "over" and often does, but it can sometimes mean other things that would be better translated into English as some other word. The canonical example of this is Nietzsche's "ubermench", which would literally translate as "overman" but is often more understandably translated into English as "superman", which better captures the meaning (although unfortunately destroys the wonderful wordplay, puns and double entendres in Nietzsche's original text based on the different meanings of uber).

In the context of how "uber" is used by gamers, it's the "superior" meaning of "uber", not the "above" or "over" meaning.

My rare axe has +1 energy on hit, but only -20 health. Uber right there for you.

30 bucks to keep competitive? Nope. Let the other losers waist their money. I'll buy it in Lions Arch or I'll find it for myself.

Thats the way to be. Pure and Simple OWNAGE!

I doubt uber items can be just "found" or "sold" to you. They are uber for a reason.

As it stands, the demand to shortcut time and simply buy you way up [items, armor, even characters] is always there, and many do it. The simple question is how effective can a company be in combatting it?

So in other words, without E-Baying, no one ever gets a hold of an "über" item? Anyone can tell you that you could run riverside for a couple hours with your guildies and easily pick up some very decent weaponry. Whether it's über or not? That depends on what you equip it with. Any decent bow with a Zealous String is über in my oppinion.

Guaranteed, it is absolutely, most definitely, obviously going to happen. Heck, who would have thought Britney Spears' gum would go for 10k? But that's not what's in question. We all know it's going to happen. What we don't know is the degree. We know it will be low, as tradition is not the path Guild Wars follows, but how low and how pronounced remains to be seen. Perhaps it's best to not concern yourself with it's fecklessness and just enjoy the game for what it is, and will be.

I can see certain types of people wanting to buy accounts that already have lots of weapons and skills unlocked. We already know there are plenty of players that want to avoid PvE altogether, and an account with nearly all the rare weapons and skills for an entire chapter (or two, or three) may be worth some money to someone like that, particularly since the lack of a monthly fee means it'd be a one-time cost.

Does this bother me a lot? In principle, yes, it disgusts me. But I'm not overly concerned about it ruining the game. These people won't be more powerful than anyone else, and they certainly won't be more skilled so it won't really throw the balance off. If anything, they'll just look like idiots and there's a good chance that many of the better guilds won't accept them if it becomes known that they're playing with an ebayed account.

As for items... I can see certain well-known "cool" items like the Dragon Sword selling pretty well, since there are some people who'll want the look without the time commitment, but I doubt it'll be as much of a problem as it is in other RPG's.

A zealous string is rare, but by no means uber. Uber in terms of game is something that gives you a huge advantage. Zealous gives you -1 pip. My axe does not. Big fat difference. Bows are also not very good at taking advantage of zealous due to the 2.0 second shot even from a shortbow, as opposed to the sword. So no, it would not classify as uber, only in your opinion.

That was my point.

Bill gates Ebays badass dragon sword, call him a loser please. He's obviously such a loser just because of a game.

bah anyone who is so pathetic to spend hard earned money on somthing THAT DOESNT EVEN EXIST has no reason to be alive.

theres a heartbeat just nothen in tha noggen, i mean come on i dont care if its the "superduper lightsaber of doom" use your money on somthing worth while

I am sure even in a world without uber weapons, some people will want to sell and or trade things like Gold, or resourses for crafting rather than haveing to hunt for wood, ores, runes and stuff. Basically lazy ass people will be doing all the ebaying. I imagine there will be a few decent items worth trading, but never worth spending real money on.