W/Mo Atrribute points Question on weapons

My questions are as follows
1. Is is a good investment to go over the necessary require attribute points past your weapon req? i.e req10 but you take it up to 12.

2. Will I see any major increase or even for that matter perhaps experience glitches if I go over the max 12. i.e. with a +3 rune? i heard from some people your dps drops if you over base max attribute points allowed?

thanks for your feedback

1. yes

2. I have no clue what you're asking.

if you over base max attribute points allowed

rephrase.

The general rule of thumb is to max out your primary weapon attribute if at all possible. And that would include a superior rune for that weapon, if you aren't soloing with that character.

If you are soloing, I would recommend saving enough attribute points to get at least an 8 in Healing Prayers, to max out Mending. If you need to take a point away from your weapon attribute, that's fine as the damage increase from using skills is normally 1-2 points.

Having 12 points in your Weapon Mastery will make sure you deal 100% of the stated damage on your weapon. Extra points will just boost the damage a bit.

1. yes
2. those people are morons, use 16 weapon mastery for max effectiveness

Effect of Attributes on Weapon Damage Attribute
Level Percent of
Weapon Damage

0 - 35.6%
1 - 38.6%
2 - 42.0%
3 - 45.9%
4 - 50.0%
5 - 54.5%
6 - 59.5%
7 - 64.8%
8 - 70.7%
9 - 77.1%
10 - 84.1%
11 - 91.7%
12 - 100%
13 - 104%
14 - 107%
15 - 111%
16 - 115%

As an example, if you had a normal, customized (20% more damage) 15-22 damage Dragon Sword, and a level 9 Swordsmanship attribute, each swing with the weapon would deal:

15 × 1.20 × 2(( 5 × 9 - 60 ) / 40) = 13.88 minimum damage
22 × 1.20 × 2(( 5 × 9 - 60 ) / 40) = 20.36 maximum damage


While swinging the same sword with a level 12 attribute would deal:

15 × 1.20 × 2(( 5 × 12 - 60 ) / 40) = 18.0 minimum damage
22 × 1.20 × 2(( 5 × 12 - 60 ) / 40) = 26.4 maximum damage


While pumping up your weapon attribute continues to give outstanding, exponential returns on damage all the way to level 12, it drops off quickly after that. Attribute level 13 is less than half as effective as the previous level at raising your damage, and attribute level 14 is even worse. So while having a level 13 or 14 attribute might look good on your stat screen, it isn't doing a whole lot in game. You'd be better served lowering that attribute and investing elsewhere.


More information at http://www.guildwarsguru.com/content...nics-id674.php

All credit above to Ensign.

Another note, if you don't meet the requirement the damage is significantly lower (try it out by using a sword with req.10 and set your attribute points to 9, then set your attribute points to 10, you will see the immense difference)
Maxing out your swordmanship if you are using a sword is usually a good thing, every point of swordmanship adds to your damage, so it does make sense to put more points in swordmanship than needed for your sword.

Quote: Originally Posted by Mistical miss

Quote: Originally Posted by Me NoFat

Quote: Originally Posted by The Muffen Man Im affraid I have to dissagree here Ill give you an example:

r/w hammer weapon set to 12
w/r hammer weapon set to 16

I deal a much greater degrea of damage with my w/r than with my r/w go make them on pvp and try it in the training yard you will be surprised at the diffrence even when just hitting without the skill bonus I am sure you do. You will deal more damage at 16 than at 12. What I am saying is that it is not the best use of those attribute points. Did you read my post? If not here it is. Read it completly this time and then disagree with Ensign if you want as he did the extisive research on this post.

Effect of Attributes on Weapon Damage Attribute
Level Percent of
Weapon Damage

0 - 35.6%
1 - 38.6%
2 - 42.0%
3 - 45.9%
4 - 50.0%
5 - 54.5%
6 - 59.5%
7 - 64.8%
8 - 70.7%
9 - 77.1%
10 - 84.1%
11 - 91.7%
12 - 100%
13 - 104%
14 - 107%
15 - 111%
16 - 115%


While pumping up your weapon attribute continues to give outstanding, exponential returns on damage all the way to level 12, it drops off quickly after that. Attribute level 13 is less than half as effective as the previous level at raising your damage, and attribute level 14 is even worse. So while having a level 13 or 14 attribute might look good on your stat screen, it isn't doing a whole lot in game. You'd be better served lowering that attribute and investing elsewhere.

For pve yes for pvp defenetly not

Quote: Originally Posted by Me NoFat

Quote: Originally Posted by Savio

Quote: Originally Posted by Me NoFat

Hmm menofat, u got a point on 12 or less, but some weapons... they are used with 13 points in an attribute ^_^ then going up to 13 is well worth it
My statement on extra points in swordmanship was based on my ancient eye farming build :P 15 strength 16 sword ^_^ the point is to kill the poor mesmers as quick as possible, no need to heal urself if you kill them before they kill you (the points do add to the attack skills as well)