So, is there some issue with actually killing Charr for Vanguard Rank?

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Lasai
Lasai
Lion's Arch Merchant
#1
Ok, snowball dominance was silly enough.. farming with repeatable Thack quests compounded it. but now, this prank quest paying out far more than most Ingame missions/quests AND repeatable??

Running Warband today pays out less. Repeating any mission gives nothing unless its z quest. Most of the quests. not repeatable at all.

Decided to run a battle plan quest today. Oh.. you are over r7? NO POINTS FOR JOO!!

It is unfathomable to me that chucking snowballs and grinding some silly april fool gimmick pays out far more Reputation than.. um.. killing Charr?

I know that daring to criticize a "gasp" farm quest is blasphemy, but I don't care. It is nonsense.
cosyfiep
cosyfiep
are we there yet?
#2
no they are just trying to make it easier to max ....its more because there are only 3 areas to get vanguard points in as compared to what 5 for norn and asura (hence why the game was released unfinished--where are the other areas???). trying to balance???? (where is the laugh emote)....
Cuilan
Cuilan
Forge Runner
#3
With my characters that have a decent PvE skill titles ranks, most of them have Vanguard lagging a bit behind.
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enter_the_zone
Jungle Guide
#4
Serious question, does anyone do anything besides speedbooking and/or dungeons for EOTN faction titles? I mean, really?
Sir Baddock
Sir Baddock
Lion's Arch Merchant
#5
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Originally Posted by enter_the_zone View Post
Serious question, does anyone do anything besides speedbooking and/or dungeons for EOTN faction titles? I mean, really?
CoF - Maxed my Deld Rank
Vanguard - Questing + Books
Asuran - Raptor Farming
Norn - Books + VQ.
KZaske
KZaske
Jungle Guide
#6
Not anymore. Oh sure, there are execptions but for the most part it is all speed-booking these days.
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afya
Wilds Pathfinder
#7
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Originally Posted by enter_the_zone View Post
Serious question, does anyone do anything besides speedbooking and/or dungeons for EOTN faction titles? I mean, really?
dwarf - farm snowman
norn - VQ back in the ursan days
asura - raptor leech
vanguard - mentioned quests

If one doesn't feel speedbooking for vanguard boring, I'm pretty sure he/she will withstand snowball dominance. It's much faster + more gold-wise profitable too.
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Fay Vert
Desert Nomad
#8
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Originally Posted by cosyfiep View Post
no they are just trying to make it easier to max ....its more because there are only 3 areas to get vanguard points in as compared to what 5 for norn and asura (hence why the game was released unfinished--where are the other areas???). trying to balance???? (where is the laugh emote)....
If they want to make it easier to max then why don't they make the rewards better for actually playing hte proper game?

And while we are at in, why do we still need someone to open the game in pre, time that pointless thing was done away with.
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Raven Wing
Jungle Guide
#9
Norn....a path to revelation still yields nice points
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FoxBat
Furnace Stoker
#10
Shouldn't the question be, why don't we have absurd rewards like this for the other tracks? Hell we still have Kieran farming, what makes vanguard so special?
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ShaJiexi
Academy Page
#11
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Originally Posted by KZaske View Post
Not anymore. Oh sure, there are execptions but for the most part it is all speed-booking these days.
If you're maxing Legendary Master of the North, VQ on double-bonus weekends (you can get over 40-60k in some areas with lucky bonuses/shrines), turn in full HM-dungeon books/quest books, doing them on ZM days. I maxed all the titles without speedbooking or clearing fairly easily, though it took a bit longer then it would have with "grinding" out the titles.

Just depends on priorities; speedbooking is fastest, but VQing+ZM missions+books will max it out reasonably quickly with less time invested, due to Zaishen bonuses/increased rewards from maxed books.
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Godess Charmaine
Academy Page
#12
think u have forgoten 1 there are the points from the Charr encription battels

high points easty to get speacally in hm

but hey dungones, missons + books = title
End
End
Forge Runner
#13
Ok...Ebon vanguard is currently the bitchiest to max tbh...(while still not hard the other imo are all a ton easier due to farms and such)


Sooo anet says...
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Originally Posted by anet
Damn Ebon Vanguard is a bitch to max compared to the rest. The rest all have something to make it easier to reduce some of the grind to make it easier for people to use those skill to their full potential.
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Originally Posted by other anet peeps in response
kay

Sooo they add in quests to make those titles less of a bitch to max.


You may say hey this doesn't make a ton of sense...
But...Decapitate isn't a 1 shot kill last I checked either.
RedDog91
RedDog91
Desert Nomad
#14
Well, with the April Fool's Day quest from Bane, one doesn't even need Eye of the North to max Vanguard rank. And since its so easy and repeatable, its basically a free max title for any player that needs one for HoM. This way, ANET is giving 2 more HoM points to anyone who ordinarily wouldn't have time or patience to get a title to display (cuz you get 2 points just for having any title displayed) no matter which campaign(s) they have.
NerfHerder
NerfHerder
Wilds Pathfinder
#15
The EV point farm is one of the better aspects of this years gag. Anet got the chance to stop working on GW2/GW Beyond for a while and we get a chance to max our titles for the hall.

There is a recurring theme in GW lately, allowing for easier access to titles. Either you can get upset about it or be happy for the casual player. Your choice.
Lasai
Lasai
Lion's Arch Merchant
#16
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Originally Posted by Fay Vert View Post
If they want to make it easier to max then why don't they make the rewards better for actually playing the proper game?
And this was my point. I see conflicting design, on one hand, restrict quests actually relating to the charr.. no repeats, no EV points past r7 for Encrypted Charr Battle plans, no points past r7 for shrine bounties in NM, etc. Then turn around and give an unrestricted, scaled, repeatable quest unrelated to the main EV story that gives out inflated points regardless of NM or HM, in a canned format that encourages farming, in areas that don't even recognize your Vanguard buff.

So why restrict point gain for playing through the game, and then turn around and throw out plat and points like candy for basically bot play?

I don't get it. I have no axe to grind.. I am r9 Vanguard without repeating any of the SD/speedbook/ Thackery/Commando junk, and I will max it without any of that. I just see a confusing message on ANETs part. IF there is a disparity earning Vanguard, fix that, don't dump in what are basically, to me, sanctioned exploit farms.

Also.. I fail to see how a "fun" quest would have been less "fun" without padding it with Vanguard points.
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FoxBat
Furnace Stoker
#17
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Originally Posted by RedDog91 View Post
This way, ANET is giving 2 more HoM points to anyone who ordinarily wouldn't have time or patience to get a title to display (cuz you get 2 points just for having any title displayed) no matter which campaign(s) they have.
You're not getting a HoM without EotN....
Lasai
Lasai
Lion's Arch Merchant
#18
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Originally Posted by Godess Charmaine View Post
think u have forgoten 1 there are the points from the Charr encription battels

high points easty to get speacally in hm

but hey dungones, missons + books = title
Charr Encrypted Battle Plan missions pay out 1k Vanguard, HM or NM.. no difference. Also, they stop giving any points above r7 in any mode.
Olle
Olle
Furnace Stoker
#19
So.. Have you farmed "Anhilator"?
2K~~ in 5 min.. Five minutes.
Be up to date and quit whining.
Leohan
Leohan
Frost Gate Guardian
#20
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Originally Posted by kajusbonus View Post
So.. Have you farmed "Anhilator"?
2K~~ in 5 min.. Five minutes.
Be up to date and quit whining.
Read peoples posts and then type. The original poster is talking about the fact that the rewards for doing vanguard stuff like charr battle plans should be changed to greater rewards in the first place.

The Annihilator quest was great/fun... there were moments I did feel compelled to just keep going to farm out my title with it.