2 million NCSoft accounts stolen

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Eragon Zarroc
Eragon Zarroc
Atra estern?? ono thelduin
#21
still doesn't change the fact that changing ur password everynow and then is a good idea. what better time than a supposed discovery of 2million accounts having there info stolen?
Ghosst
Ghosst
Ascalonian Squire
#22
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Originally Posted by shoyon456 View Post
Am I the only one happy with Norton?
You needed to be told?
Songbringer
Songbringer
Desert Nomad
#23
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Originally Posted by Rikimaru View Post
Norton is the worst piece of trash excuse for antivirus software I've ever encountered. That crap itself might be worse malware than half the stuff it's supposed to block. It's a miracle it has any level of popularity.
I don't know about other people, but it was actually set up in such a way that I'm incapable of removing it from my computer.
Most if not all Norton programs are setup like that. You have to go to their site and download the norton removal program from them that is specific to your version and it lists which norton removal tool goes with which set of its programs. Then you run that program and it removes it.

It is sooooo stupid but this will allow you to get it off computers in the future if you stumble upon them.

BTW NORTON SUXS

avg and ad-aware are by far better and there are even better versions of those. The key selling point on them...They are ALL free.
Gennadios
Gennadios
Wilds Pathfinder
#24
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Originally Posted by Eragon Zarroc View Post
still doesn't change the fact that changing ur password everynow and then is a good idea. what better time than a supposed discovery of 2million accounts having there info stolen?
A thief getting your password and waiting for you to change it before trying it out is akin to having a house key stolen and the thieves waiting for you to change your lock.

If anything, setting up a new password just ups your chances of it being noticed in any keyloggers that are hiding on one's system.

The accounts in the server are probably comprised of the outdated, already hacked ones from the hacking orgy that happened close to a year ago.
Mintha Syl
Mintha Syl
Desert Nomad
#25
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Originally Posted by akio pwns View Post
well, i havent had an attack on my computer other than stupid low level tracking cookies, and ill thank norton.

Not my fault if the cause of peoples malware problems is because they go to untrusted sites.
Norton makes you see it discovered some menaces while it puts million others on your pc
Wynthyst
Wynthyst
Site Contributor
#26
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Originally Posted by Rikimaru View Post
Norton is the worst piece of trash excuse for antivirus software I've ever encountered. That crap itself might be worse malware than half the stuff it's supposed to block. It's a miracle it has any level of popularity.
I don't know about other people, but it was actually set up in such a way that I'm incapable of removing it from my computer. I was forced to sabotage the program by deleting core files so it simply could not run itself properly anymore (which was not easy to do, since you cannot delete files in use and the thing also runs itself automatically and doesn't like you forcing it to shut down).
And this is from a version of it that was provided for free on a disc with my new motherboard
I personally don't find the removal of Norton to be all that difficult if you know what you are doing.
Reverend Dr
Reverend Dr
Forge Runner
#27
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Originally Posted by Winterclaw View Post
We just now know about how bad it is.
Their security is so bad even Symantec is making fun of it.
Winterclaw
Winterclaw
Wark!!!
#28
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Originally Posted by Reverend Dr View Post
Their security is so bad even Symantec is making fun of it.
LOL

You know you've got bad security when that happens.
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Valcion
Frost Gate Guardian
#29
If you want to pay money for anti-virus at least get something halfway decent like NOD32.

Most of us average joes should be fine with free stuff like avira and avg.
Wyndy
Wyndy
Krytan Explorer
#30
The fact that Symantec found the hack seems to be beside the point. Give them credit. It is so easy to rant when something goes wrong, but we are the silent masses when things go as they should.
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Forge Runner
#31
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Originally Posted by Feathermoore Rep View Post
It ran nicely and quietly in the background and caught anything that spybot resident didnt for well over 3 years.
People seem to be under this odd ass impression that they will magically know they have a virus if their av program dosent catch it...



but yeah as others have said... it's not who found it (even though they just got lucky) it's what was found...
Chris616263
Chris616263
Frost Gate Guardian
#32
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Originally Posted by shoyon456 View Post
Am I the only one happy with Norton?
Nope. I use Norton, haven't had a problem with my PC in over a year since I switched to Norton. It's funny that everybody hates on Norton; but I'm sure they all use different AV software and claim "it's the best". Note that nobody has actually said what AV they use when bashing Norton, either.
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Chthon
Grotto Attendant
#33
Norton is pretty terrible as an antivirus, but there's no way that they would make up something like this.

Now, the question I would like an answer to is this: Why, when WoW is more popular than NCSoft's games put together, were the thieves able to steal 10x as many NCMA credentials as WoW credentials? Oh wait, don't tell me, a fansite breach...
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Inde
Site Contributor
#34
Umm... it would be proof that authenticators work actually. But maybe I misunderstood the tone of your post.
Amy Awien
Amy Awien
Forge Runner
#35
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Originally Posted by Gennadios View Post
If anything, setting up a new password just ups your chances of it being noticed in any keyloggers that are hiding on one's system.
They'd catch any passwords you type in, no matter how old or new - and afaik GW doesn't allow you to store your password.

Could always use something like Charmap to enter passwords with the mouse if you worry about keyloggers.
Feathermoore Rep
Feathermoore Rep
Krytan Explorer
#36
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Originally Posted by End View Post
People seem to be under this odd ass impression that they will magically know they have a virus if their av program dosent catch it...
i mean if my anti-virus doesn't catch, that means my anti-virus company (if updated) doesn't even know about it yet. If my anti-virus, whose job it is to find and protect against them, can't find then i surely dont have the time or knowledge to look for and tell if i have it.

Most anti-virus seem to be including more and more resident (active change monitor), so even trying to piggyback files tends to get noticed. And the number one source of keyloggers is third-party software.
pumpkin pie
pumpkin pie
Furnace Stoker
#37
Wanders how many of those are Guild Wars Account, how many were recovered and return to the rightful owners...
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littlestuif
Pre-Searing Cadet
#38
I'm still curious. There seems to have been a website breach, which resulted in a lot of hacking of GW accounts. Why didn't GuildWars (Arenanet) change their policy during that time to give all stolen stuff back? I mean, it was obviously not the fault of the user/player.

Greetings
pumpkin pie
pumpkin pie
Furnace Stoker
#39
I read the article again and just realize that these "accounts" aren't actually stolen yet, but they will be soon when they know what to do with 44 million stolen account database, since no one know how best to handle 44 millions stolen information. I think this need to be made clear, it was stolen account informations and if the owner of the server containing the 44 millions account informations starts to use the database that they collected then there would be a huge upset.

I think it is wise to change our password on a regular basis.
Nerel
Nerel
Jungle Guide
#40
I'm not sure if this is relevant to the thread, and I certainly don't want to join the Norton bashing (despite it being a bloated shitty product), but I recently noticed something in Guild Wars that seems Norton related whilst looking at some screen shots of Dhuum.

Screen shot linked... my apologies for my poor attempt at enlarging the interesting portion of the screen shot, my Photoshop skills are lacking



http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/649/dhuum01.jpg