Update - Thursday, February 25, 2010

Okay people, just tell me how am I suppose to give my necro heroes staves for the Discordway build. I mean something that can farm Woe Spreader (the only staff that I can think off for my necro heroes).

http://pvx.wikia.com/wiki/Guide:Boss... mancer_bosses

now just in case you can't tell...he's the one named "Sessk" ok...now then...shoo shoo

Does anyone have an opinion or on whether UW/4h completion possible in HM anymore without perma?
Please confirm this is no longer possible.
(Have done UW full-clear with 7-player team including duo Rt, but this was in NM, with consets, and prior to SoS nerf, and probably with some luck.)

You could just not give your Discord heroes anything, since they don't really need powerful weapons to make the build strong.

Go kill the damn Woe Spreader boss until he drops the friggin staff. Not that hard, there's hardly anything on the way. It's not like you need 200 of those staves am I right? Can you drop that stupid Woe Spreader argument already?

Did you just call the woespreader a powerful weapon?

Next time you have a thought, let it go.

This, for starters. You could also farm for another green, buy another green, buy a random death magic weapon for like 2k, or get a collector weapon. Farming isn't the only way to acquire weapons in this game.

go to kamadan
type: wtb death magic staff (any kind), whisp offer

Yeah, pretty much any x/rit can farm anything in normal mode using an SoS build. My monk farms Nick items all the time as she has access to pretty much every part of the game, whereas my Rit mostly carries heavy stuff that my other characters don't have room for. A x/rit will take at least a minute longer to farm the items than a rit primary btw. Gasp.

What would you like, a Youtube clip of someone's party wiping? It's insane to ask for proof that something cannot be done, especially immediately after a skill update. Go try it your damn self and then share the results.

Speaking of Ritualists, I've got a feeling 600 rt/smite is going to more the build of choice now, what with Holy Wrath gone and the 600 needing more damage.

What's with the QQing about the woe spreader? My necros have been perfectly happy and effective with the hourglass staff.

Erm...Teams have been doing it in HM long before Permas...we just don't sprint thru it like gods.

I have no idea why everyone thinks permaforming is dead o_o. It's now a 5e solo maintainable skill (without deadly paradox or GoS) with an essence, and it doesn't even reduce your health upon ending. You can most likely do 4h the exact same way, except with stoneflesh instead of BUH. In fact, you could probably do most of UW exactly the same way, except a bit slower because of the 26 damage limit. I won't leak any details yet, but it shouldn't be too hard to do the same run, with some modifications on chambers and wastes for UW, and on the terras for FoW. DoA will same as usual as well <_<, maybe a bit slower.

It'll certainly be a bit harder than before, but seeing how pugs were doing dayway again only a couple months post Dhuum, with a reasonable success chance, I highly doubt anything really killed SCs.

Oh and obby flesh is still quite usable.

As a primary hammer user, I approve of the new Earthshaker animation.

FoW 600/smite won't be possible anymore, reversal of fortune activated on life steal.

For farming ectos you can use w/d or w/me, which one is faster?

Shhh we know this...we just don't want them to know....figured this out like the second I saw the update...I was like "RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO I thought they were acctually gonna nerf it"



btw that guy down there in the active users named " A Poet Named Virgil" reminded me of Virgil

Gasp.... people will have to learn how to play the game now! Anet should be ashamed of themselves. For not doing it sooner. Shadow Form actually looks like a nice skill to use with a team. Before, the use was limited to pretty much perma unless you wanted to die at the end, or make sure you were well clear. Now, it allows you to not tax your team, and stay safe while still doing some damage. Haven't tested it out, but it looks like a skill that will function well for people working with a balanced team.

Will have to break my Warrior out now too. Haven't used it in a long time, and that hammer is sounding nice.

I really hope an SC will come back to the forefront and get posted. This way, we will FINALLY either see this house of cards fall, or someone will realize Elite areas are tedious to the point where only exploitation is recommended. 4 hours trips or an ecto and junk rares is not worth fighting for.