is it possible to perma without nf?

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spartan4595
Ascalonian Squire
#1
hi im pretty new to sin and i have all campaigns but nf which has been the biggest pain since i started playing .but anyways i was wondering if its possible to perma without nf. also please dont say go get nf or delete ur sin. thanks alot
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Slasher of Darkness
Lion's Arch Merchant
#2
I'm not rly sure, cause NF has the 2 key skills, Glyph of Swiftness (I think it's in NF) and Deadly Paradox.
Ccat
Ccat
Frost Gate Guardian
#3
Glyph of Swiftness is in EoTN.

No I don't think it is. Celerity in place of GoS can be done without because it is 25%, but 33% missing might just fail to make ends meet.
Sindo
Sindo
Ascalonian Squire
#4
I think it would work if you used a Celerity and Arcane Echo Shadow Form.
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Nox Lightbender
Pre-Searing Cadet
#5
its completely possible to do it without nf because the 3 skills you need to keep up shadow form are from factions and eye of the north. Plus the main way to kill enemies is with sliver armour which is also factions. Just make sure you have the right equipment e.g 20% enchant staff with +20 energy over all. Should have 62 energy with that and right armour.
Lukyboy
Lukyboy
Elite Guru
#6
In theory, yes it is possible
With Glyph of Swiftness and an Essence and 16 Shadow arts and the right equipment
It's not very pratical though, because you need an essence everytime you go out farm stuff, which is gonna cost you quite alot of money
mathiastemplar
mathiastemplar
Wilds Pathfinder
#8
Yes, it is possible.
without NF you can:
Use cons with GoS.
Use cons with Ghostly Haste+Pain/any spirit.
Use cons with Archane Echo.
gl hf.
Ccat
Ccat
Frost Gate Guardian
#9
Honestly with the amount of money you'd be spending on consumables could probably be used to convert to IRL money and buy Nightfall. Just saying.