Unbalanced Zaishen Missions

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shadows of hob
Krytan Explorer
#1
Today, the objective is to win 3-9 Jade Quarry, JQ, games. However, you will earn less coins for it than winning 9 Team Arena games! Considering winning 9 Team Arena games takes way less time, this seems to be a bit strange.

Also some of the, more, PvE missions, the time/efford=reward seems to lack a bit.

Maybe they can fix this together with the 'I can't drop my coins in storage' bug?
BenjZee
BenjZee
Forge Runner
#2
i don't really see the problem, there are many quests in game which give better rewards for less work. Besides your not necessarily suppose to be doin every quest everyday.. there just little bonuses
Ec]-[oMaN
Ec]-[oMaN
Desert Nomad
#3
You're forgetting the fact that the average player is much more likely to complete 9 wins in Jade with ease over 9 wins in TA.
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belladonna shylock
Wilds Pathfinder
#4
see, this is proof people cry over nothing
Yarly
Yarly
Retired GW Player
#5
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Originally Posted by belladonna shylock View Post
see, this is proof people cry over everything and anything
Fixed.

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majikmajikmajik
Wilds Pathfinder
#6
if you want to talk about unbalanced, think about RA people that get matched vs TA players -.-.
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tazer
tazer
Ascalonian Squire
#7
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Originally Posted by Ec]-[oMaN View Post
You're forgetting the fact that the average player is much more likely to complete 9 wins in Jade with ease over 9 wins in TA.
during such a massive events and number of players at one time, I consider TA as 'RA with monks'.
ok, so how about 70 coins for HM Molotov in 5 mins vs 35 [!] coins for HM Harn or Maxine Coldstone in like [20!!] minutes?
or 70 for HM Blood Washes Blood in about 10 mins vs 50 for HM Blacktide Den in 20?
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Imaginos
Jungle Guide
#8
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Originally Posted by SmithyBen View Post
i don't really see the problem, there are many quests in game which give better rewards for less work. Besides your not necessarily suppose to be doin every quest everyday.. there just little bonuses
No, No you're not. You ARE supposed to do these quests every day in order to slowly rack up 7,500 coins for a single 20 slot bag.

Today you could get 18 coins for risu palace mission in NM. another 27 for beating it in under 30 min in HM and 45 more for beating it in HM. This mission isn't worth the time for the pissant amount of coins you get, so the OP is correct that these "rewards" need to be rethought, along with the costs on the stuff you can buy.

Also you are incorrect there are not "many" quests ingame that give zcoins, only 1 mission, 1 hunt and 1 pvp. and the mission/hunt coinage in NM for rewards so far have sucked for every single one of them. Understandable on blacktide den as its a low mission in NM but not for risu palace.
snaek
snaek
Forge Runner
#9
anet can't fix this because they don't play their game and so can't gauge something simple as this
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A11Eur0
Furnace Stoker
#10
Blacktide den is a lot worse in HM than in NM. What Anet didn't realize is that when you take a mob of 30 skales at level 4, and all of a sudden toss them up to level 24 without reducing the numbers, it makes for a rather interesting time in comparison. The HM bonus coins should have been much more.
MisterB
MisterB
Furnace Stoker
#11
I for one am very upset that the Zaishen rewards NPC lack any tissues to absorb my QQs and tears. There should be a single tissue for 20 copper coins, a box of tissues for 3 silver, and the ever-coveted Everlasting Silken Tissue Box @ 100 gold coins for when my self-indulgence, entitlement, and rage know no bounds.
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Brawn Over Brains
Krytan Explorer
#12
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Originally Posted by Yarly View Post
Fixed.

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You win the internets my good sir.
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IlikeGW
Jungle Guide
#13
Raisu should be like 300 coins... that mission is a pain in the ass every time I've PUGed it. Hopefully they balance PVE rewards better as so far they've been all over the place in a bad way... At least PVP is generally worth a good chunk and doable.
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gremlin
Furnace Stoker
#14
Simple answer to all this is simply do not do the missions at all just buy 5 slot bags for all the characters that's 5 times x Characters more storage than you all had last week.

Get the free pane if you can that's 20 more than you had last week and go back to doing what you were doing before the update.

Something more reasonable as regards time and effort vs reward might tempt me but at the moment no thanks.

Besides it will all be wasted effort once GW 2 arrives and consider this if they think the idea is a success they will put it into that game and you will be doing it all over again.

Nothing fundamentally wrong with saying to the writers thanks for your hard work but no thanks.
Amazing_Bass
Amazing_Bass
Ascalonian Squire
#15
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Originally Posted by MisterB View Post
I for one am very upset that the Zaishen rewards NPC lack any tissues to absorb my QQs and tears. There should be a single tissue for 20 copper coins, a box of tissues for 3 silver, and the ever-coveted Everlasting Silken Tissue Box @ 100 gold coins for when my self-indulgence, entitlement, and rage know no bounds.
and some ben & jerry's for sweet tooth points. No speed boost though. You tried runnin after eating that stuff?
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Teutonic Paladin
Wilds Pathfinder
#16
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Originally Posted by A11Eur0 View Post
Blacktide den is a lot worse in HM than in NM. What Anet didn't realize is that when you take a mob of 30 skales at level 4, and all of a sudden toss them up to level 24 without reducing the numbers, it makes for a rather interesting time in comparison. The HM bonus coins should have been much more.
So basically, they should vastly increase the reward because you have to bring Shield or Absorption, or Aegis, or Ward against Melee, or Defensive Anthem, or Shielding Hands, or any other single tanking prot/ party wide prot. The group of level 4s is meant for level 10s who have shit for bars and shit for brains. God forbid you actually bring a prot into HARD Mode or something. (Don't worry folks, even if you are really THAT terrible, you can still tank n' spank your way through it)

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Originally Posted by IlikeGW View Post
Raisu should be like 300 coins... that mission is a pain in the ass every time I've PUGed it. Hopefully they balance PVE rewards better as so far they've been all over the place in a bad way... At least PVP is generally worth a good chunk and doable.
Maybe it's a pain in the ass because you're terrible. I'm sorry you can't be rewarded for being bad but then what's the incentive for those of us who can easily beat stupidly programmed AI?
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JASON626
Krytan Explorer
#17
i think rewards should be looked at.
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IlikeGW
Jungle Guide
#18
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Originally Posted by Teutonic Paladin View Post
Maybe it's a pain in the ass because you're terrible. I'm sorry you can't be rewarded for being bad but then what's the incentive for those of us who can easily beat stupidly programmed AI?
what's your reward? you can go do it on your 50 other characters and accounts in 10 min each if you're such an uber nerd. congrats!
Zorgy
Zorgy
Frost Gate Guardian
#19
snaek said: "...anet can't fix this because they don't play their game and so can't gauge something simple as this..."

You should read more accurately the forum dude



Mike O'Brien: The Guild Wars 2 team is twice the size of the original Guild Wars team, so you can imagine the level of art, content, and production values we're putting into the game. The game is already beautiful, and is getting more so every day. In addition to the normal playtesting of everyday development, the entire team logs on every Wednesday to simply play the game together, and we always have a lot of fun.

from: http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10369697
tmakinen
tmakinen
Desert Nomad
#20
I actually like the new Zaishen quests a lot, both as a new gameplay mechanism and as a way to draw people together for a common objective but it is undeniable that the rewards are - lacking a better word - inconsistent. It is not QQing to point out that 5 minutes of ganking Rocktail is considered as worthy a deed as digging out Rragar from his menagerie where we are talking about 1.5 hours of solid entertainment in Hard Mode.

About Raisu Palace ... it's perfectly doable in less than 15 minutes in HM.