Shields.... -5/20 > All.

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NoXiFy
NoXiFy
Wilds Pathfinder
#1
Whats up with -5/20 being the PERFECT SHIELD MOD. Anytime someones selling a shield, or buying one, they always want a -5/20 on it. The other day, while in GToB, I saw someone trading a torme shield STR, for a tacticts req one. He was there for several hours so I finally traded him, and when i put mine in trade (mine was +30, armor+10vs. lightning) he responded LOL F*KING NOOOB, NO -5/20 NO DEAL. And I'm like... dude, if this is for PvP, or EVEN PvE, you go with armor+10vs. X, not -5/20. He than says "LOLWUT IM R9 GLAD, R10 HERO, R6 COMMANDER, UR NOTHING!!!! NOOOB STF^" I'm like... wow, guess I never thought -5/20 was that leet. WEll, discuss, why does evyone think that -5/20 is so great?
deluxe
deluxe
Desert Nomad
#2
wammos prefer -5/20, most warriors are wammos.
Stolen Souls
Stolen Souls
Desert Nomad
#3
Same reason Sundering is the "Perfect" weapon mod...it looks the best, nothing more.
Marverick
Marverick
Forge Runner
#4
Because the number 20 looks better than the number 10?
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Tyla
Emo Goth Italics
#5
People are bad.
The Red Messenger
The Red Messenger
Krytan Explorer
#6
i have no problem with people liking the -5/20, even though it sucks.

why?

because i have no personal use for it, but i can sell it for about 10k pretty easily. why complain? take advantage of the situation...
matthijs123
matthijs123
Academy Page
#7
I have no clue about why -5/20% is so overrated either, Although I've got it on alot of my shields, I rather use -2/stance(Warrior). And ... + I would never use a +10 vs lightning It's all my opinion... please convince me to take -5/20% if I am totally wrong (Also, do not blame me on my English, grammar may suck :P
moko
moko
??uo??o??
#8
people are lazy (bad) and it's the coolest looking !!!1
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Kanyatta
Forge Runner
#9
Because I don't have enough weapon sets for an "armor +10 vs. each element" to make it feasible to keep swapping, so I kind of just keep the all-purpose one up. It still works nice, but it's not THE BEST ALL THE TIME. It's kind of just the mid-range one that isn't bad, but isn't good.
kvndoom
kvndoom
Forge Runner
#10
5 > 2

And that's all people see.
Rohan
Rohan
Frost Gate Guardian
#11
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tyla
People are bad.
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upier
upier
Grotto Attendant
#12
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Originally Posted by matthijs123
I would never use a +10 vs lightning
My paragon used to run it because those boss Invoke Lightnings hurt my boo-boo ...
makosi
makosi
Grotto Attendant
#13
A warrior's basic armour level is 80+20vs physical = 100 armour vs. physical. Why then does -5 damage from 1 in 5 random physical hits sound good to people? -Blind, -Crippled or +10 vs. an element will make a bigger difference.

Then again, the wammo culture like 20/20 mods on swords.
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Molock
Desert Nomad
#14
People are stupid and don't understand that +10ar >> -5 PHYSICAL dmg 1 in 5 hits. It should be pretty obvious which is better.. but.. apparently it isn't for the majority of players.
mr_stealth
mr_stealth
Frost Gate Guardian
#15
Same reason that everyone likes 20/20 sundering. Bigger numbers=better. Its not something horrible if you want something thats just generally usable, but not ideal for any situation. Having a shield vs each element would be rather useless vs a mob that is only doing physical damage, and using vs species shields would require a massive collection of shields. The -5/20% is just seen as the "always works" mod, although -2 stanced(depending on build) or enchanted (if you have a prot monk around) would be better for that situation.
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Tyla
Emo Goth Italics
#16
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Originally Posted by mr_stealth
Same reason that everyone likes 20/20 sundering. Bigger numbers=better. Its not something horrible if you want something thats just generally usable, but not ideal for any situation.
If you want DPS, Vamp is better. Sundering for spikes, but that's PvP.

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Having a shield vs each element would be rather useless vs a mob that is only doing physical damage, and using vs species shields would require a massive collection of shields.
You know there are shield mods +10AL versus physical damage too, right?
Sarevok Thordin
Sarevok Thordin
Desert Nomad
#17
People hate changing their shields for the same reason people are shitting breaks over the Ursan nerf.

THEY ARE LAZY AND HATE ADAPTING
[DE]
[DE]
Hugs and Kisses
#18
+10vsCold is clearly the best, the only thing that scares me is a certain Panda with a very scary Icy Charr Axe.
Alexandra-Sweet
Alexandra-Sweet
Wilds Pathfinder
#19
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Originally Posted by Tyla
You know there are shield mods +10AL versus physical damage too, right?
No there aren't.
Closest thing would be "Survival of the Fittest" +1...5 Armor vs Physical Damage but is for off-hands only.

And in PvE someone can't be arsed having 7 slots of different shields so -5/20 is the easiest.

In PvP you don't need your inventory empty so it's best to take a shield for every elemental/physical damage.
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A11Eur0
Furnace Stoker
#20
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Originally Posted by Tyla

You know there are shield mods +10AL versus physical damage too, right?
Yeah but that physical damage is relegated to piercing, slashing or blunt. So you'll pretty much want to know if you're going up against a bunch of rangers, hammer warriors, or slashers. +10 vs blunt is awesome for farming elementals though. +10 vs slashing good for raptor farming, etc.

Alexandra: read what I just typed. Also, I run 6 different shields in PvE. I also run 6 different melee weapons. That leaves me with the backpack, belt pouch and one bag free. I also may have a GWEN rep book, some CCs and other consumables that I feel like taking along, and a bow for pulling. I never run out of space because I SALVAGE for materials. You'd be amazed at how many weapons salvage into granite.