[Dev Update] Shadow Form Balance Changes - 2 July 2008

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Hailfall
Hailfall
Jungle Guide
#41
And now watch all the prices of everything go up because people can spent tons and tons of ectos that they farmed.

gg

edit: and no i dont any ectos, thats why im saying it
Monk Gsb
Monk Gsb
Wilds Pathfinder
#42
do somthing good for pvp now ? (aka, nerf the RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO out of sway and all other degenerate builds. kthx )
hurdlebeast
hurdlebeast
Krytan Explorer
#43
Quote:
Originally Posted by makosi
The damage is already done. -_-

It's can't be healthy to let ectoplasm prices yo-yo up and down by artificial methods.
QFT. damage is done already. Props for Anet for doing something about it, though.
T
The Great Al
Forge Runner
#44
ugh, I couldn't care less about the farming, but there goes my ele runner
kostolomac
kostolomac
Jungle Guide
#45
Does the new SF affect damage from hexes like [Empathy]? If no , and even if it's a yes I can still farm my lovely Yammiron
Jetdoc
Jetdoc
Hell's Protector
#46
Won't Shadow Form assassins just move to Tomb of Primeval Kings, for some easy Banished Dream Rider farming?
A
AOD_EaSyKiLL
Frost Gate Guardian
#47
If the -50% damage covers melee damage too, then that is a huge nerf. It nerfs more than UW, it will just about nerf Boss farming and any other things other than running.

That nerf is harsh enough to warrant removing the health loss or even to buff SF to be maintained by only Deadly Paradox.
Koricen
Koricen
Lion's Arch Merchant
#48
I can't believe it happened, atleast so soon..
Lest121
Lest121
Wilds Pathfinder
#49
Quote:
Originally Posted by AOD_EaSyKiLL
If the -50% damage covers melee damage too, then that is a huge nerf. It nerfs more than UW, it will just about nerf Boss farming and any other things other than running.

That nerf is harsh enough to warrant removing the health loss or even to buff SF to be maintained by only Deadly Paradox.
I think the 50% only effects the Chaos plains monsters mentioned.
MisterT69
MisterT69
Wilds Pathfinder
#50
Quote:
Originally Posted by underverse_ninja
I think the 50% only effects the Chaos plains monsters mentioned.
gogo spawning pools?
m
mazza558
Lion's Arch Merchant
#51
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jetdoc
Won't Shadow Form assassins just move to Tomb of Primeval Kings, for some easy Banished Dream Rider farming?
Except:

- There's a much lower chance of getting ecto
- It takes a while to play enough to get rid of the overfarming code - stages 3 and 4have the most drops but take about 40 mins to get to.

I'm not really that bothered about this change. I can still get my cartog. titles, still run people easily, and still farm places where there are so many enemies, Sliver Armor will still kill quickly (monolith temple, raptors, ice floe, vermin, etc)
lyra_song
lyra_song
Hell's Protector
#52
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jetdoc
Won't Shadow Form assassins just move to Tomb of Primeval Kings, for some easy Banished Dream Rider farming?
The point isnt to remove them altogether. Just slow them down or limit the areas they can farm.
Evilreintje
Evilreintje
Ascalonian Squire
#53
soon? not really, atleast 2 weeks of braindead ecto farming in uw x] I don't think they should've nerfed SF tbh, just nerf Glyph of Swiftness to non ecnhantments only, or Elementalist spells only. This kills A/E solo for UW, all they did now is make a slower UW HM farm with 6 ursans and 2 monks zzz they should nerf Ursan aswell if they are going to keep this -.-
Larcen
Larcen
Frost Gate Guardian
#54
This also kills off the typical Terra farmer too doesn't it? If disenchant hits Ob. flesh, run is over. Course I could be wrong. I've been wrong before, will be wrong again.
kvndoom
kvndoom
Forge Runner
#55
I really really hope this isn't the only skill update Anet could muster for a whole month. As lousy a a state as PVP is in, I really hope there's more coming than just a pacifier for the ecto QQ crowd.
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AOD_EaSyKiLL
Frost Gate Guardian
#56
Quote:
Originally Posted by underverse_ninja
I think the 50% only effects the Chaos plains monsters mentioned.
It says:

[shadow form]

now reduces the damage dealt by the caster by 50% while active.

This is intended to slow down killing while under the effects of Shadow Form. We recognize that this does not affect killing by Health degeneration. That is primarily being addressed through the creature changes listed below.


I take that to mean:

caster = the person casting Shadow Form

damage = any skill that does damage (98% of all non healing skills) and weapons

-50% = alot of a fudging nerf

Does not effect degen = we wish we could include degen in the nerf, but it tecnically doesnt cause damage, so we cant factor for it

Now, if EBSoH still adds full damage, there is some potential to farm still, but dagger builds are out of the question. DP already disables them for a while, then you add the fact you only can carry 3-4, then cut that damage in half, that means no SF dagger farming. Sliver would be the only way.
Nessar
Nessar
Krytan Explorer
#57
Daaaamn nice job anet

Is Ursan next...? o:
Lector G
Lector G
Academy Page
#58
O.O ectos are back at 4.5k at the trader already lol YAY
The Meth
The Meth
Desert Nomad
#59
Anet finally nerfing imba PvE stuff?

This is madness...
AscalonWarrior
AscalonWarrior
Wilds Pathfinder
#60
Back to the W/Rt I guess