The Madness That Is Ether Renewal

Just another QQ thread And when people disagree with the OP.. they are trolling

It amazes me why people get so upset over how they feel others need to play the game. I don't tell you how to play, I didn't pay for your game.

Skills that make it easier are available, so what?? You don't like it, don' use it, simple. Let other players who paid for their own game play however they please without this urge to tell them what to do and how to do it.

Don't see why they fixed all the exploits, then. Because, as you say, people didn't need to use them.

The matter is much more complex than this.

Agreed with JetDoc, by the way: I am now writing down, with ANet officially jumping the shark.

And wow, Unienaule still reads the forums??

This is strawman.

Why should anything be balanced in PvP? You're free not to play it. Play PvE instead, if you think it's not balanced properly.

This type of 'GTFO' argument can be applied to anything. But it doesn't improve or help anything or anyone.

Don't like dealing with idiots? You're more than welcome not to play online games.
Don't like others complaining about a game? You're more than welcome not to read forums.
Don't like other people's opinions? You're more than welcome not to post here.

See? It works for everything.


Oh RLY?

This is telling others how they should play.

Don't like this thread? You're more than welcome not to post here.
Don't like the other's opinion of ER? You're more than welcome to have your opinion.

I really love this new way of "do what you want". But I'm not contributing much, am I?

The PvE PvP Split Update has been brought to you by... People Like This Guy(tm).

Oh, and yeah, I read the forums a little. My LOTRO server is down for an hour.

Further edit: I concur. Houston, the shark has been jumped.

You just need more enchantments for yourself.

Are you suggesting for Ether Renewal to be... Ether Renewal'd again?

lol?



As for my own opinion... yeah, it's obviously broken as hell. But it's broken in PvE, so I don't care.

The underlying problem is that A-Net has lost touch with the main-stream PvE player base and doesn't understand why many PvE players adapt certian play styles:

PvE players want to kill the largest amount of enemies in the fastest time for one reason and one reason only: LOOT. Raptor farming didn't become popular because it's easy, it got it's popularity because of the loot that dropped there. And it's still very popular for farming during the special drops events. If people wanted "easy" they'd stay in Old Ascalon or the noob islands!

Lots of high-level enemies + fast run time = More in-game wealth. (NOT "epicness")

The fact of the matter is that they're destroying any feeling of "epicness" by dumbing down PvE as much as they have. EXAMPLE: THK used to be a bit of a challenge, now - even in HM - it's a joke. Back in the day, beating THK gave people a sense of accomplishment. Now it's just a boring piece of silliness (even before Ursan) that doesn't even make sense (What military genious is going to attack a fortress by sending in two people at a time?).

I laugh at all the people who QQ about Ursan and how overpowered it is and how it has allowed anyone to go anywhere in the game and do anything. Sure it is an extremely powered skill, sure it has made aspects of the game easier, the point is though that you still need to have a basic understanding of the game to succeed, don't think this is true? Just ask anyone who has gone to UW with an Ursan team and had someone load up on all the quests at Reaper of the Labyrinth and see how much success they had?

Show me you doing this well, and I will believe you. You would be at -10 energy regen, and since you only have 4 enchants (you could have more, but w/e) on yourself, you wouldn't be making enough energy at all whatsoever. ER only really works we in situations where you (the ele) are not enchant stripped, e-denied, or interrupted, and where you have to spam skills that may or may not be expensive. It really isn't god-mode, so stop making it out to be. Once you would get all the bonds up, you would literally have to spam Aura of Restoration just to keep spamming Aura of Restoration. Then what would you be? A bonder that can't even move. <_<

Now I am by no means saying that this skill is not powerful, but you can do much with it at all.

^You obviously haven't tried using it to it's full extent then, or even seen some of the screenshots.

121212121212121212... etc? oh wait I forgots three..


Tip: If your middle and index fingers start to get tired, switch to your baby and ring fingers.

Also lol.

I agree and I'm happy to see more POWERFUL skills come back to the PVE side of the game. What I hope to see is more POWERFUL skills compared to UB so we can start using more than a couple. Bring back the power of the NECRO as well with 30+ minions and unlimited energy. I'm glad Anet is not catering to the hardcore that want everything to be hard or impossible except elite guilds and guild members. This game was paid for by EVERYONE and EVERYONE should have access to EVERYTHING regardless of how easy it is for some.

Now try to get that build into any pug. Heroes don't mind, people are too blind to notice this beats ANY monk.

That is the problem here, but it is your problem. If you can´t step back and find a attribute point distribution and choice of skills, that make the game fun for you, than that is your problem.
Some people play at maximum level and have fun doing it. Some "gimp" themself and have fun with it. And some play at maximum level and cry like babies, instead of changing their bars, to make it fun again for themselves. Maybe GW is not the game for you anymore.

There is a difference between "intention" and "mistake".

My cat won an award at latest competition, earning me $200.

I used this money to buy GW. As such, cat paid for it.

I DEMAND that GW is made playable by my cat. It paid for the game, and needs to be able to play it.

Make a fool-proof system, and only a fool will use it.

Less QQ, more PEW PEW.

Let the ele's have their fun. Why does it bother you so much? Are the eles in PvE affecting you somehow with their limitless energy? Are they coming up to you in towns and poking fun at your soul reaping?

Maybe I should start a thread about necros and soul reaping and how they can pretty much maintain Ursan indefinitely because of it.

This game has enough nerfs hitting the classes that we don't need people crying for more nerfs to class specific skills.

Let the farmers have their [shadow form]. How does that hurt you?

Let the eles have [ether renewal]. Means they don't get to use another elite.

Yes, [ursan blessing] is imbalanced.

Yes, I hate the fact that [volfen blessing] gives no armor bonus so the only classes that can really use it effectively are wars and paras.

Yes it sucks that Necros got nerfed with soul reaping and minion limits (I have a necro on my old account that's almost 36 months old).

But really... stop QQ'ing. It's PvE. It's only as fun as you make it to be, and right now, it seems like you don't want to have fun anymore.

Did you even read the post I quoted? Why would I mention that not using it to it's full potential mean I can't step back and look at it?

And how does that stop the fact that it still effects you? Sure, this game can't be perfect for everyone, but why should carebears get things from crying about things so trivial?

Do you want me to tell you what brings people like me back to this game?

The PvP in it is great. No amount of gimmicks will change that.

I still find PvE fun, and am keeping up, making new characters and continuing for rank 6 KoaBD for my Ranger.

And the main thing: It's free. You don't have to pay monthly fees for this game.

Relax, there are far worse PvE skills out there than unlimited energy for Elementalists.

I used it to spam Air Magic skills and went back to just spamming Searing Flames in all non-Destroyer areas. Heroes do not use it good enough, and I had better things to do than to bring Ether Renewal. You should bother testing this yourself, if you are alone the skill does not really matter. In a group of experienced players it is an unlimited source of energy, but it would not matter anymore either, IMO!

I can see people use it to power Healing Builds and spam Heal Other / Jamei's Gaze and Heal Party. Besides that, I still prefer to be a Necro, my Elementalist still cannot compete with my Necro... so do not bash Ether Renewal that much.

But the question is if R10 Elite Ursans will accept anything else than 2 proper monks healing them! :>


Does Ether Renewal really matter if there are so many skills that already make PvE by far too easy?
ANet just added one more skill to the list of skills that are bad for the game, and I think it is very low on that list compared to other skills.

GW has reached a point where it cannot be saved anymore. I think it is too late to cry about spilled milk. They did not test most PvE skills properly, they range from total utter crap to game breaking. And their PvE/PvP split idea was good on the drawing board, but it ended as people predicted in even more imbalanced skills for PvE.

"Because overpowered skills are fun." - Izzy already said he did not mean it that way, but I just do not believe him...^^


We can only hope they do not start the way they ended in GW1 in GW2... :/ Their chance to reset the power creep and make more meaningful and less imbalanced skills.

Then I don't see why ANet has such a pressing urgency to fix all of these exploits. I'd understand if it was to "make their game look good", but most of these exploits just brought you to the end of the game quicker - which is the same end result as buffing skills to oblivion.

If it works well with heroes, who needs PuGs???

And you do UW hard mode, DoA and so on...how?