Is it okay to buy expensive items for cheap from noobs?

There is a difference between looking to scam somebody (spamming wtb black dye for 100g)

And being offered a deal from a noob (I'll sell you this green item for 40k less then it is worth).

One you are trying to pray on people. The other... well, if the guy is willing to sell you something, he should have looked up their value before he makes an offer.

Player A has a q8 15^50 Fellblade drop for him
Player A goes to town, spams sword for 50k
Player B buys it

Nothing wrong with that.

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Player A has q8 -5:20% +30 emblazoned defender drop for him
Player A spams for offer
Player B offers 20k
Player A sells for 20k

Nothing wrong with that, either.

There's no scam involved at all, the seller agrees to the offer and accepts the trade. All the resources are there for players to educated themselves with so there's no one to blame but yourself if you sell an item for under it's market value.

Not much difference. One example is explicit and the other one is implicit by agreeing to buy an item for a significantly lower price.

But, if your morals can't even hold up in a game, which is supposed to be about having fun and good sportsmanship.

Then how long do you think it will be until your morals fail in real life?

Just some food for thought.

Krat

The two are very separate.

who wouldn't buy a car worth 20grand for 5grand in real life?

Awww. Do you want a cookie for having no self respect?

Blame someone who's only been playing for maybe a day or two because of their "ignorance" = classic.

lol this actually happened? i thought it was jsut a myth.

Buying something for a lower price than you think it is worth and then reselling it is pretty much the only way you can make a significant amount of money in this game.

If someone offers something at a lower price than you think its worth and you buy it:-:
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There is nothing wrong with this, its just good business.


If you ask someone how much they want for an item and they say "offer", you offer a lower price than you think it is worth and they accept :-:
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There is nothing wrong with this, it is just good business.


If someone asks you how much you think something is worth and you lie to them and tell them it is worth considerably less than you know it is; then proceed to buy it at this severely deflated price :-:
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You are a piece of crap and deserve to receive white non max raven staffs as your sole drops for all eternity.

What I do is I let them know the price of the item then tell them where to check for further price checks in the future. I will not rip people off period. If you do rip people off in game then your big douchbag type.

There is a fine point to this though. Like has been mentioned before.

1. If sellers sets price and you tell them the actual price and they still wish to sell for that price then its good.
2. You WTB item for said price and seller brings an item at the price you want to buy then thats ok.

These are only if said items are in a reasonable range. If you are lowballing someone then you need a permaban.

Tell me how they could have something that is worth getting at a low price within this period of time ?
Someone gave a req8 voltaic spear to them just like that and they decide to sell it for 5k to make some money ? or a Mini-Kanaxai and they thought that is was useless and decided to sell it for 100g ?

Sorry, but I would like to see a proof that it actually happened (and getting "scammed" for 5-10k isn't really big...).

Markets are efficient. Information is freely available.

Nothing wrong with engaging in arbitrage.

Which would result in the removal of "fraud" as a crime, right? Everybody could have informed themselves, even if someone lied to you.
No, even better "misleading advertising" could be removed too.

So why isn´t it??

Is it okay to buy expensive items for cheap from noobs?

black dye := 5k

WTB black dye 100g = wrong to me, you is a RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing scammer

WTS black dye 100g = wrong to me, normaly i pay more 2k*

WTS black dye 3k = ok to me, just a good deal...

*sometimes if someone is trying to sell something to cheap, i say its to cheap man... you can sell it for more... the real value of this is...
i forget how many times i go to old ascalon, monastery, kanadam to give away greens and max weapows for free, help with missions and have the chance to scamm others ppls and dont scamm them...
to the me this thread is about the line about scamm someone or make a good deal...
to me buy something very cheap and you kown the real price of it is a moral scamm... buy something cheap is not a scamm is a good deal, if someone is trying to sell something very very cheap and you offer more its not a scamm is a good deal...

/agree

We need make a Thread about "offer"... WTF? if you dont kown the price of the fish i must kown? go to hell...

Dear God, is this community full of money-grabbing douchebags or what? I'm disgusted at the majority of you here.

Teach us, oh holy one, to be better people in your image?

Or perhaps realize it really is just a game, that the resources to learn values of items are here and that it's a learning curve for us all.

And if this is something you're disgusted by:

'He say offer I say lower than the market and he accepts'

please, educate me why this is so bad?

If it's just a game - why do you have to grief and steal from people? Don't have enough of bad things in RL or are you just numbed-down to a couch-potato IQ that you simply cannot fathom that it is not a matter where you take advantage of people, but that you do it and feel comfortable with it?

I don't. I can't. But then again, it wasn't my ancestors that bought Manhattan for a couple of beads and occupied a whole continent just because they could. Scamming and taking advantage from people is not hard-wired into me. I apologize. My bad.

I've mown down hookers in GTA with a 12 guage to get my money back. I've suffocated someone to death with a plastic bag in Manhunt. I've gone to town on someone with a lump hammer and a wood axe in Vampire: The Masquerade...

Would I do these things in real life? Of course!

"ignorance kills"...your pocket too.

When you decide to enter the trade market you usually type "WTS..."

WTS means "want to sell"....it's not a "forced to sell" or "blackmailed to sell" or..don't know what...

From my POV there is no "right" or "wrong" price...trade has its own rules...

You sell/buy at an "accepted" price? you find buyer/seller quite fast.
You sell/buy at an "non accepted" price? you keep on spamming for hours....nice rule, isn't it? i am sure at the end you learn your lesson

if you don't know the value of what you sell, don't sell it....

if you don't respect your luck that gave you this item, why others should respect you?