GW PLEASE take my money..

Or doing CoF runs, I decided to do a few runs, charging only tips, one weekend quite awhile ago, and a few decent drops, a couple nice tips and a few 100g tips, and a couple hours later I was up 200k. I was amazed.

I've posted a response to this several times and have yet to hear a response..

HELLO... People are buying gold online ANYWAY. Anet is just starting to really crack down on it. Since it's been happening ALL ALONG, how would it change the economy. All it would do is make it legal.

I would weigh all of your options and then decide if it was worth it. The important thing is that I would have the choice. Right now, I don't.

@GW GF

How does their obtaining a skill/elite skill with a tome effect -my- game play, thus far?

Someone buying in-game gold for real world money would effect me. As others have explained, like Meat Axe. It would cause inflation. You have also stated your aversion to farming. By you purchasing Anet gold, prices go up. I don't want to buy gold just to buy items and play. I bought GW because it wasn't a pay to play game. Now because someone else buys gold, I'll have to farm for gold since I don't buy gold and prices are now inflated? Playing through the game for enjoyment and gaining gold by that means would no longer make sense.

@ ModTerrik
Before someone stated that a means to counter inflation would be to place a set price on in-game items, armor, etc. How would someone mitigate how much dropped items should be worth? Even if Anet were to mitigate how in-game gold comes in, how are players going to agree on the worth of in-game items that don't have set prices such as what npc's offer? Are they going to put a set price on what weapon would cost? Players have to sell/trade a longsword for 15k and a crystalline at the same price? The trade box won't accept higher or lower? If GW was like that, it would be better as a console game and not an online one.

Usually when I pay for runs I do it because I am doing something else at the same time, so I can have fun chatting and whatnot, but still pay minimal attention.

I do runs myself when I am not doing other things with my time. In that case, I usually end up with around 4-5k of profit per run, depending on drops. It adds up fast. I still think, though, that paying a runner for CoF is a pretty viable alternative to solo farming, if that's not something you enjoy. You can still make money, but it isn't nearly as tedious as solo farming, plus you've got a group of people to converse with.

Wth Is This Shit .

*edit* Moron

I work also work full time and have two teenage kids (one of whom also plays GW) so I get around 2 hours a day to play GW if I am lucky.

My solution to my problem of not having enough time to play was to concentrate on one char. I have ten character slots, but currently only play two of them. I play my primary char to progress his titles, and I play my Ele to farm the money the primary char needs.

My primary char is currently after the Treasure Hunter title, so needs lockpicks. This is what I did:

Progressed my Ele through GWEN until he got to Longeye's Ledge and Rata Sum.

Used the Ele to farm Raptors and Vaettirs in HM until I made 100K.

Spent the 100K on 80 lockpicks.

Use lockpicks on primary char until they are all broken.

So far each batch of 80 lockpicks has brought back between 60 and 90K.

If I made less than 100K then I went back to my Ele and farmed the difference to bring me back up to 100K. Then go and buy another batch of lockpicks and start again.

I am not particularly good at farming.. in fact I know I am slow compared to the serious farmers, but with the right builds anyone can do it.

Last week my son who is always complaining that he has so little money was watching me farm Vaettirs. He was so impressed that he spent the rest of the week getting his Ele there and getting the skills he needed. Yesterday he learned how to play the build and made 20K.

Anyway, I am neither for or against the idea of in game gold being sold and can see both sides of the story.

It doesn't matter. The more money that is released, the more expensive things become.
The only reason we don't have everyone buying money now is because it's against the EULA. However, if ANet now said, "Hey! We're selling GW gold legally!", many many *many* more people would buy it, totally flooding the market with money. It's a simple economic phenomenon called hyperinflation, and it's been recorded in real world history, many many times.
The more money there is, the more people start charging for things, making people buy more money, which makes things more expensive. See where I'm going with this? Before you know it, 10 bolts of cloth costs 1k, then 2k, then 5k... So saying $10 for 10k is pointless, because soon 10k won't buy anything.

I 'worked' longer hours than either of my parents while in school, and have to make all my own meals and do housework, but keep your condescending view as you 'rail' at me.

What I'm getting at is your generalizations have no purpose here.Absolutely. However, no matter how good a farmer you are it will always be more time efficient to work a low-pay job and use the money to buy ingame gold than it is to farm for cash. Making the option available, for those who don't want to farm, would just bring a bit more profit to ANet, and those who prefer to get their funds a different way are welcome to do so.

While selling gold might not be the best way to accomplish the reduction of grind, especially in a game like GW where the gold isn't really an issue, selling UAX was an essential step ANet took (albeit an incredibly late step). I'd like to see that option remain in GW2 as it allows new players to jump in much faster.

After lootscaling, I ended up doing a lot of ss/lb runs for title and was able to get some gold that way. Lots of bones, tomes, golds would drop for me. I think a sapphire once so it isn't all bad. I just took less henches with me.

Because if you have worked hard to get a really good build and have 'earned' all of your skills, you could end up in an arena or on a team with someone who doesn't know how to use the skills that they have. Or perhaps you've worked a lot harder and are dying to have the skills that they just bought. Even though you are a more skilled player, they do a lot more damage than you do.

On the topic of inflation.. please see my response above. I don't think the economy would be affected. It's been happening for quite some time now.

You should ask the person who stated that as to how to counter the inflation by setting in game prices, if it meant I could buy gold and my tomes..console me up.

I graduated HS about 20 years ago and I am sure that things have changed since then but even with a full-time job and a family I have quite a bit more self determination of how my time is spent now than I did then. My normal day between the age of 15 and 17 was between 14 and 17 hours long. I had a full load of classes with several hours a day of homework. A part time job, household chores, and physical fitness preparation for my post graduation entry into the USMC rounded out my day.

Of course not all of my classmates had my schedule but too little sleep and too much homework/chores/football practice/et. were very common concerns.

I appreciate this...it's nice to have someone to commiserate with.

I like this, but honestly, I'd rather just buy the gold and spend my time making new builds and trying them out then killing hordes of raptors over and over and over again ad nauseum. Wouldn't you?

Just because we don't know of every instance of players getting banned for purchasing ebay gold, doesn't mean that Anet hasn't done it. We may think that they're barely 'cracking down' on things now more than before, when it could either be much more or less. I suppose we won't know until they give us the exact tally, which I don't think Anet would do. Those players that are banned are just having more of a tendency to post on forums because they've either just found them, or think that acting like they don't know what's going on and portraying that to the public will in some way aid them in getting their banned accounts back.

Very good post.

I have horrible luck with lockpicks.. lol I always get the worst stuff and only one use at the most out of them, so I stopped buying them.

I do like the idea of focusing on only one char. I do get bored with that but spreading my time among all my chars means very slow going.

I guess it's really up to Anet as far as if they want to keep casual players like myself or make the game so that only a serious player can enjoy it.

To see a good idea of how this would affect their revenue, look at the Wii versus the PS3. Sony came out with the PS3, which is more for gamers, whereas the Wii is for everyone. The PS3 may be better in many aspects, but since the Wii has a broader appeal, it is making tons more money than the PS3.

I think that if online gaming would appeal to more people (ie make it so you can have fun without grinding), more people would play. More people playing = more fun and variety of games.

Which as I said, you avoid your hyperinflation by controlling supply. Either by limiting the amount of gold that can be bought total (you get on a waiting list to purchase 100k for $50 and within a week you have it) or by pricing it high enough so that only the rich can afford it (much like Bill Gates Leer Jet).

Fair enough, but the point was that the only two options for ANet are:

1. Pricing it very high to protect the player market for non-gold buyers. This gives very few people the realistic choice of buying gold. In this case, most people who want to buy gold would probably still be dissatisfied, since they still wouldn't be able to get anywhere by buying it officially.
2. Price it "reasonably" (that is, most items in the sub-100k area could be bought for a reasonable price). In this case, we would have some degree of the inflation problems some other people have already talked about (depending on how reasonable the pricing is). This is detrimental to non-gold-buyers, as it raises costs for any player economy items that they want.

Personally I hate the idea of a skyhook in an rpg. It should be about building up accomplishments, not having them handed to you because you have the cash to pay for them.

Maybe if rather than purchasing gold players purchased the items directly inflation wouldn't occur.

You must have had very bad parents...I'm sorry.