I miss old Halls

ily medic.

/signed btw. i kind of quit going into FoW once i could get in at any time.

/signed lol. Same why omg pizowned, back then, you waited before you could go to the BEST place to get cash (pre-Factions). Now you can just walk them.

And what's the point of UW/FoW scrolls now? Or why The Deep/Urgoz cannot be accessed 24/7 now?

/signed me too theres too much favor and ectoes lost their value etc etc. at beginning america had hit allways then euro won everything .

i remember when you could change your zone 3 times i just changed to america then europe started own favor all the time

it was fun in ToA everyone shouting "YEY one more win" and waited like crazy to get favor .. good ol' time

I do prefer the ancient system. It give a meaning to the HoH battle. I want the favor of the god to depends of who win the favor.

I have always been in favor of this and never complain at the time.

Beside with the scroll it is possible to go when you want with or without the favor. That is the good balance.

Strange, when I made about the same thread like a month ago, I got flamed and nobody wanted it to become like it was

/signed anyways

The old favor system was crap, since it caused the artificial separation of the server network.

Want to give HoH a reason? Make it decide who gets fame (ip based).

Thread like this are red engine pathetic.

With the old system, EVERYONE and his dog was complaining all the time. All the time.
At the beginning (2005) it was unfair to Euro players, then it was unfair to Americans.

And no, local chat wasn't any better back in 2005. ToA was just a tardfest with racist/political 12 yo flamers all over the place.

But talking about the "good old times" makes people look more e-cool, I guess.
And yes, I was playing in 2005.

I agree. Even though i never played there, i enjoyed observing the battles, precisely because what happend there had influence. Now i dont anymore...

/notsigned haven't you all thought about the district system when they inplant the old favor system all of american uw/fow farmers will all get in the europe districts

fixed it for you.

if the reason was stop pvp influencing pve then why the hell are skills still linked.

the old system was better but hey, its too late now.

Yeah, it was better back then i guess. Kinda feel sorry for any country not in europe, though.

I never really cared about favor as when i became interested in UW/FoW Europe began winning over the 4+ month Amercian favor reign

However if they went back to the old system wouldnt they also have to put the travel restrictions back in? you would get all the farmers heading to one side when they won favor.

/notsigned
there was no logical reason for hardcore pvp'ers to determine when pve'ers would be able to access fow & uw.

yea i miss the days of europes 23/7 favour

Old system was a fossil from when HoH was accessed from the gate in Tombs.
There more separated are PvE and PvP, the better.

I don't, given I'm in North America and well... I kinda miss it 'cause it did make FoW/UW more special. Kinda. >_>.

I remember when I started playing GW in June 2005; Korea had favor for most of the time I was on. Then America had it. Then Europe had it. Then I bought a second account for FoW/UW farming on Europe servers... and favor was changed not even a week after x].

What I'm saying is that the game needs some sort of a "world impact" mechanism tied to HoH, but:

1) The original favor mechanism wasn't perfect, because too many people were completely shut out;

2) The current favor mechanism isn't perfect, because there is absolutely no impact for HoH wins;

3) Reverting to the old favor system now that unlimited district switching exists would solve nothing, because the impact of HoH wins would be a minimal inconvenience.

What we need is a new system, designed to maximize "game world impact" while also minimizing inconvenience. As with many other things, favor has been "overnerfed" due to the combined impact of scrolls, unlimited district switching, and the change to the favor system. Obviously, scrolls and unlimited district switching are here to stay because the convenience offered by both is too great to simply remove. The constraints of any proposed change would have to be limited to the favor system itself.

After the favor system was changed, I posted an idea of switching from "region" based favor to "campaign" based one. To be honest, I like tongue-in-cheek real-world references in Guild Wars, but thought that favor being tied to real-world regions (which breaks the 4th wall explicitly) shouldn't have been present in Guild Wars. With all three campaigns out at that point, I suggested tying favor to completion of the campaign's last mission, as this is precisely the kind of feat that would get someone in the GW world the attention of the gods - but, since we're talking about HoH here, it could be tied to the region in which the party leader's character was created. That way, holding Halls would keep the favor up in one of the three campaigns, resulting in at least a minor measure of "game world impact" for HoH wins.

Linking favor to game-world regions rather than real-world ones would do several things:

1) HoH regains a measure of original "pride" due to a restored impact on the game world;

2) People are not inconvenienced as much as under the original system, because they can simply zone into a different campaign and enter Realms of the Gods from there;

3) People are not inconvenienced as much as under the original system, because scrolls still exist;

4) As a side benefit, ANet gets to sell more copies of old chapters to people who wish to have 24/7 access to FoW and UW.

I still dislike the fact that people who actually want to access the content wouldn't have any ability to influence their own chances of access, but that's the state of things under the current system anyway. In my opinion, restoring some measure of "glory" to HoH would be worth this kind of inconvenience.

Yup 12345678888888888888

I miss 6v6 halls. That stuff was really fun.

I thought I was the only one.