Guide: Completely Filling HM Hero Books - Fastest way to max rep - Tips and Advice

And if it was the OP's intention for everyone to work together to create a guide he/she should have simply said so rather than billing the post as *the* guide. It was not the OP's intention to create a guide. This was just a regular thread with tips. It has been turned into a guide because (a) many of us appreciated the info and requested that it be stickied and (b) because there is a need for it. Hence the need for a group effort. I hope that clears it up for you. Not that we don't appreciate your fine vintage 2008 whine.

Here's a map for Curse of the Nornbear taken from guildwiki. Not that Tmak's directions are difficult to understand if you have a compass for a brain.


Thanks to RTS for his work on this "guide."

It was not the OP's intention to create a guide. This was just a regular thread with tips. It has been turned into a guide because (a) many of us appreciated the info and requested that it be stickied and (b) because there is a need for it. Hence the need for a group effort. I hope that clears it up for you. Not that we don't appreciate your fine vintage 2008 whine. LOL... fair enough, though seriously, if this is meant to be a collaborative effort maybe make that more explicit in the first post. Otherwise cynical bastards like me who get annoyed at non-guides might offer more of your favourite vintage.

As for the idea of just doing the shorter quests to fill in a book faster. There have been many many threads about this already. A quick search should reveal a couple. Many people have done this. How fast is is compared to the 30k you get from filling a full book probably depends on your primary and your builds. Some have it easier than others.

Doing the same 3-4 quests over and over is extremely monotonous though... I figure doing the whole book is a little more fulfilling and you'd have to do it far fewer times. Alternately it might be better idea to figure out if it's worth it just leaving out the longer quests...

From personal experience the quests that have taken the longest are Warband of Brothers and Destruction's Depths. Leaving those two out might be worth. You still get about 18k for the book, but shave about 90mins or more from your run time.

It would probably be faster and easier to get up to r8 by filling in Normal mode books, then use this technique to get to r10..

Doing 3-4 quests over and over again does get quite monotonous.. Full NM books can be done in 2-2.5 hours, and full NM dungeon books can be done in ~4-5 if you're rushing, which is comparable, but you're going to end up doing this for one of your rep titles, no matter what you do.
->Full NM Hero books up to 79k for each
->Full NM Dungeon Book up to 119k for each
->Completing MoTN will Max Deldirmore Naturally
->Valgar Falls HM to Max Norn (10k/hr from this is faster than booking)
->Full HM Dungeon book to max max Asura
->Full HM Hero book to bring Vanguard to ~160k

You're then left with the decision as to whether you do the 3 quests 7 times in 2-3 hours or do 10 in 4-5 hours.

Full NM books can be done in 2-2.5 hours, and full NM dungeon books can be done in ~4-5 if you're rushing, which is comparable, but you're going to end up doing this for one of your rep titles, no matter what you do. I'll grant you the NM hero handbook in 2.5 hours, but I simply wont accept someone putting forth a full NM Dungeon book in 4-5 without some solid evidence to back it up....

I'll grant you the NM hero handbook in 2.5 hours, but I simply wont accept someone putting forth a full NM Dungeon book in 4-5 without some solid evidence to back it up.... I only did 4 (one for each rep), wasn't timing myself and was taking breaks in between so yes, my numbers could be way off.

Edit: I'm also not including any of the time that you don't actually need to be there. At the boss fights I'd often flag the h/h and go away and watch a tv show and come back and the chest would be there... this can be done in slavers, bogroot, Darkrime, arachnis amongst others.

I only did 4 (one for each rep), wasn't timing myself and was taking breaks in between so yes, my numbers could be way off. Ok... but seriously 4 dungeons isn't a full dungeon book by a wide margin. Which is what you indicated in your original post.

And yes... in NM the HnH team can take care of most of the mobs and for you.

Ok... but seriously 4 dungeons isn't a full dungeon book by a wide margin. Which is what you indicated in your original post.

And yes... in NM the HnH team can take care of most of the mobs and for you. not 4 dungeons - 4 dungeon books one for each rep to make the jump from 79k->119k - you can't even hand in a book with 4 dungeons =)

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Curse of the Nornbear

It is indeed possible to bypass the shrine completely, in which case the optimal route is:



Spawn points are indicated with green numbers. Since you clear the path on the first pass through, it's just a matter of running back and forth. Total time 9-11 minutes depending on whether you have a party wide speed boost.
Your're still wasting a bit of time, when going for the first location there is a path into the center area near where you start, you can finish this quest in about 7 minutes in hard mode.