Over this past weekend event with the double xp for capping - I figured I'd go out and have a cap frenzy to help along my toon going for the survivor title. I capped at least 80 bosses (prob'ly well over - I didn't count - but for the sake of argument let's just say 80). You'd think after fighting 80 bosses, I'd see at least ONE green. I didn't see a single green item dropped all weekend and I played quite a bit and all I did was fight bosses. Is this part of the farming nerf or something or is there some other bug I've stumbled upon? Has anyone else noticed this?
IF it helps -- 90% of my cap runs were done with an 8-man team of hench/heroes and myself. (Since it's very hard to find capping only groups in random towns all accross all 3 campaigns I HAD to go that way). There are a few times I went with a smaller team (like 6) but most of the time I was in 8. Even so, in the past I would have seen maybe 2 or 3 greens out of 80+ bosses with an 8 man team.
It was just extremely disappointing to see so few drops. /-:
WHERE are the greens???
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Except those from furnace you can substract any boss u did in tyria from your 80 bosses since they do not drop greens.
But even so, let's say u did only green-looting bosses. You did so with an 8 men party which means you had only 12.5% chances of getting the green IF a green was dropped and the odds of a boss dropping green are not that big...
Did you ran out of luck, yes for sure, was it after some nerf or something, I don't think u can conclude that.
But even so, let's say u did only green-looting bosses. You did so with an 8 men party which means you had only 12.5% chances of getting the green IF a green was dropped and the odds of a boss dropping green are not that big...
Did you ran out of luck, yes for sure, was it after some nerf or something, I don't think u can conclude that.
From bosses that actually drop greens, you have a 12.5% chance (12% for the sake of Anet rounding) to get a green, IF the green dropped. You'd have been lucky to see one at all.
For the sake of the argument, let's say the boss has a 10% chance to drop a green. With an 8-man party, you have a 10% * 12% of getting that green. That's a 1.2% or 1% in Anet rounding of getting a green. Your chances are not good.
That's why farming of greens is a 1 or 2 man thing and even then, you may only get a green every 10-20 runs.
For the sake of the argument, let's say the boss has a 10% chance to drop a green. With an 8-man party, you have a 10% * 12% of getting that green. That's a 1.2% or 1% in Anet rounding of getting a green. Your chances are not good.
That's why farming of greens is a 1 or 2 man thing and even then, you may only get a green every 10-20 runs.
I capped ~50 elites this weekend and had two greens drop for me with full hero/hench parties.
Just bad luck for you or extremely lucky for me?
With full hero/hench 1/80 is normal odds. I don't know the exact numbers but if a boss drops his green 1/10 times you kill him then you multiply the hero/hench taking 7/8ths of the drops then 1/80 is not so hard to believe.
Just bad luck for you or extremely lucky for me?
With full hero/hench 1/80 is normal odds. I don't know the exact numbers but if a boss drops his green 1/10 times you kill him then you multiply the hero/hench taking 7/8ths of the drops then 1/80 is not so hard to believe.
I went out on two three different characters this weekend capping elites, I capped about 40 on the first, and 5 on the second and 5 on the third, out of all of them I got 5 greens, over the last two months previous to this I have had none, I was thinking they had nerfed it somehow to give more
I was capping in NF only however, and on the 3rd character i was uncovering map at same time, seems to me it was kjust luck though, good luck for me bad for you
sorry
I was capping in NF only however, and on the 3rd character i was uncovering map at same time, seems to me it was kjust luck though, good luck for me bad for you
sorry

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The numbers make sense - and to answer your question yes all 80 were bosses with viable caps and regular green drops. It just seems odd that in the past I would have seen 2 or 3 greens in that many bosses but now I see 0. Yes it could be just very bad luck compared to the past but it seems odd that this is the first heavy boss run I've done since the farming nerf. I was mostly wondering if others had experienced this as well..??
Oh - I guess also for more info -- about 55% of the bosses capped were from factions (all over factions - except I did NOT do "noob isl"). And the other 45% were from Elona. None were from Tyria. (my toon isn't far enough in Tyria to start there yet).
one last tidbit - Since my char I was capping on is a paragon, while doing factions caps I was relying on capping on my 2ndary (changing it all the time). I, as an example, did the Temples mission 8 times in a row - once for each boss. So not only did I CAP over 80 bosses but I passed more than double that just trying to cap specific ones. I'd pass bosses along the way to getting to the boss I was trying to cap from in other words. So in all fairness I went through (and yes defeated) over 160 bosses easily this weekend. (Yeah - I played a lot). Just seems unlikely (possible yes).
one last tidbit - Since my char I was capping on is a paragon, while doing factions caps I was relying on capping on my 2ndary (changing it all the time). I, as an example, did the Temples mission 8 times in a row - once for each boss. So not only did I CAP over 80 bosses but I passed more than double that just trying to cap specific ones. I'd pass bosses along the way to getting to the boss I was trying to cap from in other words. So in all fairness I went through (and yes defeated) over 160 bosses easily this weekend. (Yeah - I played a lot). Just seems unlikely (possible yes).
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I haven't had a green drop in months. But that is fairly normal for me, luck wise.
I know the heroes/hench are getting them, because if I party with a real person while exploring or capping, they always get the greens and golds.
One guildmate will drop everything to go out with me, as historically, he will be guaranteed a major share of the gold and all of the greens.
I know the heroes/hench are getting them, because if I party with a real person while exploring or capping, they always get the greens and golds.
One guildmate will drop everything to go out with me, as historically, he will be guaranteed a major share of the gold and all of the greens.
Ah, I allready thought I was getting crazy, not having a single green drop in months after slaying countless number of bosses... to be honest the first 3 months after the release of nightfall I had some pretty nice drops, but from then on nothing, nada... And I slay a average of 7 bosses a day minimum. So by simple calculation that's almost 1000 bosses slayed without a single green, hooray!
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Oh - I guess also for more info -- about 55% of the bosses capped were from factions (all over factions - except I did NOT do "noob isl"). And the other 45% were from Elona. None were from Tyria. (my toon isn't far enough in Tyria to start there yet).
one last tidbit - Since my char I was capping on is a paragon, while doing factions caps I was relying on capping on my 2ndary (changing it all the time). I, as an example, did the Temples mission 8 times in a row - once for each boss. So not only did I CAP over 80 bosses but I passed more than double that just trying to cap specific ones. I'd pass bosses along the way to getting to the boss I was trying to cap from in other words. So in all fairness I went through (and yes defeated) over 160 bosses easily this weekend. (Yeah - I played a lot). Just seems unlikely (possible yes). |
Also, afflicted bosses have no greens.
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Say that farming greens you average one green in a solo party every 8 run. Well you have a full party of 8, which reduces your chance to get a green by a factor of 8.
Therefore your chance to get a green is at best 1/64. You only did 80 bosses. You didnt get a green, so you were unlucky, but if your luck was at the mean, you would have gotten only one green for those 80 bosses. You werent that unlucky.
Several other factors may have affected your drops. In hard mode, bosses also drops elite tomes and scrolls of passage. These may cut into green drop percentages. There's also some "your drops are reduced if your playing for too many hours straight code" in Guild wars, and many players believe that there is still some farm code in Guild wars too (this could be an issue if you were rezoning the areas one after the other... eg doing the Ranger in Mt Qunikai, then leaving and doing the ritualist there, then leaving and doing the monk...).
Therefore your chance to get a green is at best 1/64. You only did 80 bosses. You didnt get a green, so you were unlucky, but if your luck was at the mean, you would have gotten only one green for those 80 bosses. You werent that unlucky.
Several other factors may have affected your drops. In hard mode, bosses also drops elite tomes and scrolls of passage. These may cut into green drop percentages. There's also some "your drops are reduced if your playing for too many hours straight code" in Guild wars, and many players believe that there is still some farm code in Guild wars too (this could be an issue if you were rezoning the areas one after the other... eg doing the Ranger in Mt Qunikai, then leaving and doing the ritualist there, then leaving and doing the monk...).

