Picklocks, % and opportunity to use them

Anyone who's using lockpicks is certainly a little disappointed.
the fact that they are rather expensive makes them good only to open chests in few areas.

i'm considering 3 main scenarios: a random lvl20 guy without any chest or lucky title, a good runner with 3-4chestrun tiers and maybe the 1st title of the lucky track, a chest addict with tier7 and maxed lucky title(5)

A- Chances for him to destroy a picklock = 90%.
Opening a chest with lockpicks bought from the trader at 1500 = 1500(90%) = 1350g
Opening a chest with lockpicks bought from other ppl at 1200 = 1200(90%) = 1080
this lead to the conclusion that for him picklocks at 1500g at the trader are completely a waste of cash for regular mode's non elite chests, even with the built in bonus.
Fissure chests, aswell as The deep's, Domain of anguish might be a decent opportunity aswell, specialy if u can buy these lockpicks from other ppl at a discount price

B- Chances for him to destroy a picklock = 79%.
Opening a chest with lockpicks bought from the trader at 1500 = 1500(79%) = 1185g
Opening a chest with lockpicks bought from other ppl at 1200 = 1200(79%) = 940g
Again, completely a waste of cash for regular chest even with the built in bonus, a huge deal for elite area's chests, might be a good deal for hard mode chests, at least for areas where skins are valuable.

C- Chances for him to destroy a picklock = 59%.
Opening a chest with lockpicks bought from the trader at 1500 = 1500(90%) = 885g
Opening a chest with lockpicks bought from other ppl at 1200 = 1200(90%) = 708g
In the best possible scenario, still picklocks are not cheap for average locations, considering the built in bonus, this just like buying keys at 600g each. it's therefore an unbelievable discount price to open elite area chests.
At these prices i'd suggest to open all hard mode chests, specialy if u can find picklocks chea from other ppl.


Conclusion: Imho picklocks are cool idea for sure, tho a little tweak in prices/% is needed. As for today picklocks are a good opportunity in elites areas and in hard mode, completely useless for every other regular mode location.
Lowering the price to much would turn fow chestrun in an insanely cheap trip.
A good suggestion might be making the base retain rate to 30-40% for a level 20 + the same bonus for titles, but requiring 2 picklocks to be used on elite chests.
i.e. to open in fissure of foe u use 2 picklocks, each one with the same chances to be destroyed. opening that chest u could save both picklocks, destroy one or destroy both.

so what u think?

Don't buy them in a few hours I've had 2 lockpick drop which I've used to open 2 chests.
I would love keys to drop as much as the lock picks are.

They only drop in hard mode?

just use them for hard mode and buy the appropriate keys for whatever zone you're in if playing in normal mode.

The hard mode "chests" only use lock picks. There are no keys for them.

It sucks however that the chance to keep the lockpick is so small and based on grind titles...

i totally agree only got chest run level 3 all my percentage is is 19% lol but on the other hand only openend 4 chests yet and they all where gold... hope it will stay that way otherwise a waste of my 1.5 k ^^

opened 5 chests so far. only 1 was purple.

Also, in HM perfect weapons are dropping waay more for me. like the 1st thing i found was a 15(enchanted) spiky war hammer (req 9). I was like WOOOOT!

just now i found a crimson claw scepter with 20HRT and 10% HCT all.

so far my drops are unreal.

lol bought 4 picklocks last night and did some chest farming with them, not really worth the gold

All chests (last night, possibly not today) were auto gold drops, so 1.5k is worth it to most.

Btw. Does the chests in HM count toward treasure hunter? Didnt have completed Prophecies till now and dont have an oportunity to try it out. Could someone post an update ?

Yes. They do count

hardly worth the gold

Im under the impression Lockpicks are crap, its dependent on sheer luck which is just uncool.

Well im back to keys for now.

its not "auto-gold", ive had 50/50 gold/purple drops id say. ofc, those were in the most overfarmed areas of them all

as of now, i think its only really worth it to use them in areas where u can get skins that are very desirable, but not guaranteed to be max. It doent seem to make sense (at least atm) to use them in say realm of torment, where every chestdrop is max per default.

this is my impression, ill get rank4 of treasure first before i keep experimenting tho

PS there seem to be rumours that there will be items which can only drop in hardmode, that would change things a bit

5 chests - 2 gold / 3 purples = all keys lost with 3 luck and 2 treasure

Bought 2 sets of picks - both destroyed on 1st use(lvl 3 in wisdom and tresaure hunter). Did get 2 gold drops, both however were bunk... Waste of 3 plat IMO

I used 5 picks with r7 Treasure and r3 Lucky... all broke, and I had a 37% chance to keep.

Annoyance :/

Do Lockpicks have less chance to break when used on Hard mode chests?

So far, I only used it once (didn't break, whew) and got a regular Ele Tome with it. (meh, worth 1k I guess)

Oh, and I have no titles, so it's 90% chance of breaking for me.

Do the drops matter what area you are in? Will Ring of Fire hard chests have better loot than Ascalon hard?

No, its the other way around. Its got a "normal" chance to break in HM, but if you use them in normal mode, it has and extra % chance of not breaking, that is inherent to the regular chests.