Blood Really is Power

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Desert Nomad

Joined Nov 2006

Mar 27, 2007 at 8:38 PM • #1

I want to start off my post by saying that I really liked my blood necro in Prophecies but when I went to Factions, everyone assumes or tried to make me go MM and I kinda lost interest in her. With the recent announcement that GW:EN won't be coming out until the holidays, I finally decided to take her over to Nightfall and found out that Nightfall is more friendly to other builds becides MM and SS, both of which I found kind of boring.
So I made the thread for those people thinking of making a necro or maybe want to try something new with theirs. So here is the build that I am using:
[skill]Vampiric Gaze[/skill][skill]Life Transfer[/skill][skill]Blood Ritual[/skill][skill]Well of Blood[/skill][skill]Resurrection Signet[/skill][skill]Empathy[/skill][skill]Backfire[/skill][skill]Power Spike[/skill]
I got 14 in Blood Magic, 10 in Soul Reaping, and 9 in Domination Magic.
So just post your thoughts or maybe a build that your using to try and break the mold.

Knightsaber Sith

Furnace Stoker

Few Fallen Heroes [FFH]

W/E

Joined Aug 2006

Mar 27, 2007 at 8:41 PM • #2

I've always played blood necro.

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Ascalonian Squire

Forever Angels

N/Me

Joined Mar 2007

Mar 27, 2007 at 8:51 PM • #3

Blood IS Power! but depends on what you are doing of course, so in some cases MM OWNS pve and sometimes even AB its really the diverty of the class that counts here so Necro rules ;D

Cathode_Reborn

Desert Nomad

Joined Sep 2006

Mar 27, 2007 at 9:39 PM • #4

Quote: Originally Posted by wetsparks

[skill]Vampiric Gaze[/skill][skill]Life Transfer[/skill][skill]Blood Ritual[/skill][skill]Well of Blood[/skill][skill]Resurrection Signet[/skill][skill]Empathy[/skill][skill]Backfire[/skill][skill]Power Spike[/skill] Alot of your spells take too long to recharge. Once you use LT, it takes a massive 30secs to recharge....assuming you're using this build in pve, it probably won't even last it's full duration cause your team will have killed the target. Backfire does high damage, but this also takes abit of time to recharge. Vampiric Gaze isn't really that damaging......at least put 16 in blood. Empathy is decent. I'd replace Power Spike with Jaundiced Gaze since the damage isn't much lower, but it's spammable and unconditional.

Alot of Domination skills arn't that useful in pve. Their effects are usually very harmful, but they're also pretty conditional and have long recharge times. A few other effects such as e-denial just arn't worth using in pve.

wetsparks

Desert Nomad

Joined Nov 2006

Mar 27, 2007 at 9:52 PM • #5

What I do is I spam gaze, and I put empathy on all the mele enemies. On casters I will first use backfire and gaze, and since backfire has a long recharge, on the next caster enemy I will put life transfer on him and spam gaze. On the guy I put life transfer on I keep my finger on the "8" button in case I need to interrupt a spell. By the time I get the third caster, backfire will have recharged or really close to it, and I am able to repeat.

Marverick

Forge Runner

Joined Aug 2006

Mar 27, 2007 at 10:34 PM • #6

Move interrupts to 3 or 5 keys, much easier to interrupt 3/4 or 1 second spells with them there.

Life Transfer is really a subpar elite, and Empathy isn't worth it without at least 14+ Domination.

Kotoso

Ascalonian Squire

Mo/

Joined Oct 2005

Mar 28, 2007 at 12:19 AM • #7

Quote: Originally Posted by Marverick

Move interrupts to 3 or 5 keys bind 6, 7, 8 to R, F, Shift, then you don't need to give up strafing when you press 6-8.

The recharge sucks, but why not put Mark of Subversion in?

wetsparks

Desert Nomad

Joined Nov 2006

Mar 28, 2007 at 1:36 AM • #8

Quote: Originally Posted by Kotoso

bind 6, 7, 8 to R, F, Shift, then you don't need to give up strafing when you press 6-8.

The recharge sucks, but why not put Mark of Subversion in? I'll try out Mark of Subversion, see how I like it, but it seems like it wouldnt work as well as backfire from the wiki description. Backfire, at 9 domination, does 98 damage whenever a spell is cast in the next 10 seconds. Mark of Subversion steals 87 health at 14 blood magic when a spell is cast within the next 9 seconds. Not much difference but with the fast casting ele bosses in Nightfall that is a lot of damage being missed out upon.

Dalmascan Princess

Ascalonian Squire

Daughters of Tyria [DT]

N/Mo

Joined Mar 2007

Mar 28, 2007 at 6:58 AM • #9

I really enjoy playing my Yvi as a Blood Necro. (Though she hasn't traveled past the Desert in Tyria yet, so I haven't been able to change my secondary class (which is Monk) or get some of the spells I'd like to have yet. So far it works pretty well, but what do you think about N/MO for a Blood Necro?)
I don't really have the patience to play as a Minion Master... somehow it always feels "rushed", unless there are a lot of things dying in the area.

Sophitia Leafblade

Desert Nomad

Dragon Slayer Guild [DSG]

Joined Nov 2005

Mar 28, 2007 at 9:16 AM • #10

Quote: Originally Posted by wetsparks

So I made the thread for those people thinking of making a necro or maybe want to try something new with theirs. So here is the build that I am using:
[skill]Vampiric Gaze[/skill][skill]Life Transfer[/skill][skill]Blood Ritual[/skill][skill]Well of Blood[/skill][skill]Resurrection Signet[/skill][skill]Empathy[/skill][skill]Backfire[/skill][skill]Power Spike[/skill]
I got 14 in Blood Magic, 10 in Soul Reaping, and 9 in Domination Magic.
So just post your thoughts or maybe a build that your using to try and break the mold. Personally i would have used something more like:

[skill]shadow strike[/skill][skill]Vampiric Gaze[/skill][skill]Well of Power[/skill][skill]Well of Blood[/skill][skill]Blood Ritual[/skill][skill]Awaken the Blood[/skill][skill]Signet of Lost Souls[/skill][skill]Rebirth[/skill]

Although its less effective on casters than your build it allows for continual team support while being able to deal considerable damage to all foes. If ur in a group that will stand in the wells more often you can also replace blood ritual with something more offensive. And Well Rebirth is there because i like having it for emergencys

ZenRgy

Zookeeper

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N/E

Joined Jul 2005

Mar 28, 2007 at 10:54 AM • #11

Life Transfer is bad.

Backfire is bad.

Most blood magic elites blow except for Well of power, BiP and possibly OoV. I'd rather run a OoB hex spammer. >_>

EDIT : Spoil Victor OWNZZZZZZZZZZZ

moko

??uo??o??

Joined May 2006

Mar 28, 2007 at 11:22 AM • #12

Quote: Originally Posted by ZenRgy

Most blood magic elites blow except for Well of power, BiP and possibly OoV. I'd rather run a OoB hex spammer. >_> [skill]Spoil Victor[/skill]

O_O? i really hope you meant pve only :<

oh, and [skill]Ravenous Gaze[/skill] is okayish if you feel like doing a bit damage rather than supporting..

ZenRgy

Zookeeper

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N/E

Joined Jul 2005

Mar 28, 2007 at 11:37 AM • #13

Oh wow, I totally skipped Spoil Victor. My mistake.

Yes, Spoil Victor is THE blood necro for damage.

But Ravenous Gaze sucks, always has and always will.

moko

??uo??o??

Joined May 2006

Mar 28, 2007 at 11:52 AM • #14

its not THAT bad, it can work as nice emergency selfheal if you happen to below 50%, but yeah, i wouldnt take it either.

or maybe in combination with saccing builds, iunno. >_<

TheFirebringer

Pre-Searing Cadet

Joined Dec 2006

Mar 29, 2007 at 10:07 PM • #15

I made this build with Vampiric Spirit, it's just a DA bomber but it uses more blood then death. And it lokked fitting to put it here. It gives alot of numbers (every1 likes that, but half of the numbers are dmg done to ureslef

)

Blood: 15
Death: 11
SR: 9

Touch of Agony
Dark Pact
Jaundiced Gaze
Blood renewal
Vampiric Spirit [E]
Dark Aura
Consume Corpse
-free option-

Maintain Vampiric Spirit and DA. Use the Touch of agony to get in range. If u have agro use Blood renewal first for the regen and Jaundiced gaze for the extra life steal. Or u can use Dark Pact because it's cheaper.
Remember Touch of Agony is a skill and wil NOT trigger Vampiric Spirit.
Consume Corps is for health gain and more important for energy.

Let me know what u think about it, it's not original but I would like to know if I can improve it

jesh

Forge Runner

Penguin Village

Mo/

Joined May 2005

Mar 30, 2007 at 7:06 AM • #16

One of my previous posts...

12+3+1 Blood Magic
9+1 Soul Reaping
10+1 Death Magic

Vampiric Spirit {E}
Dark Aura
Blood Renewal
Signet of Agony
Plague Sending
Blood of the Aggressor
Dark Pact
-optional-

Plague Sending activates both of your enchants since it's both a spell and a sacrifice. It adds 6 dps to your attacks thanks to Signet of Agony, which does damage in and of itself, and gives you an option to get rid of conditions that are put on you. You can put Consume Corpse or a res or whatever in the last slot. 16 Blood I find = more damage.

TheFirebringer

Pre-Searing Cadet

Joined Dec 2006

Mar 30, 2007 at 7:54 AM • #17

The signet of agony and plague sending combi looks nice. (just to be sure signets don't trigger vamp. spirit or do they??) I dont have nightfall but i can replace blood of the agressor with Jaundiced Gaze.

About the lv 15 bloodmagic I dont have a minor rune of deathmagic on my armor and i wanted dark aura to do at least some dmg. But i will get 1 soon.

thx for they reply I gonna tst it out

*Edit* It's so funny plague sending is in the curse line. It has nothing to do with the attribute line and its actualy a non atribute skill. But I totaly forgot about it because its in the curse line

(useless edit btw :P) *Edit*

frizz87

Ascalonian Squire

Joined Feb 2007

Mar 31, 2007 at 12:31 PM • #18

I might be completely idiotic here, but what if you echo Life Transfer?

I like life transfer...

wetsparks

Desert Nomad

Joined Nov 2006

Apr 1, 2007 at 5:18 AM • #19

If you echo life transfer then you will be able to use it on two different enemies simultainously.

To the people who commented on my build. I have taken it under great consideration and have decided to replace [skill]empathy[/skill]. I thought it would work better than it has because of dervishes ability to hit adjacent foes and heros liking to group together. But heros are smarter than I gave them credit for and they arent allowing that to happen. Havent decided whether to replace [skill]empathy[/skill] with [skill]dark pact[/skill] or [skill]shadow strike[/skill]. Thoughts?

P.S. I dont think I'm going to replace Life Transfer because it does 192 damage over 12 seconds while healing me for the same over that time.

ZenRgy

Zookeeper

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N/E

Joined Jul 2005

Apr 1, 2007 at 6:12 AM • #20

But life transfer is just bad.