Domain Of Anguish - Are Warriors Needed?

I've seen people shouting for tanks, only to find that Elementalist Obsidian Flesh tanks are desired.

Seeing that the classic Warrior job (Tanking) has been taken by elementalists, I'm wondering this...

Where is a Warrior useful in Domain of Anguish (any area), what build would he bring, and what purpose would he fulfill?

I"m wondering, because y Warrior is by far my favourite character, and I don't have any other characters at DoA.

Any advice/insight/information?

Thank you.

Quote: Originally Posted by Loshi

I'm sure most if not all DoA could be accomplished by using something other than a warrior as a tank since much of what makes a character 'tankable' in that area comes in the form of buffs from other members in the group (i.e. bonders, rits, etc.). That being said, I'm sure you could also get through most if not all DoA as a tank as well.

Warriors will always be needed, especially as more and more people start playing in the DoA.

I would guess that 1 in 25 tanks is not a W/-, and athough there are pleanty of eles around, in general people who make and play eles like dps (and might not know the basics of making and holding aggro that a primary warrior SHOULD know), and people who make warriors like to absorb dps (and again, have probably figured out at least the basics of holding aggro.

No, they are not.

What is needed though, are players who can play tanking and agro management role.

If they happen to be playing that on a warrior, then warrior it is.

Just playing a warrior does not make you a tank, good at agro management or desirable contribution to a team.

I have seen both the Ele Earth Tank and a Warrior WhammoTank in DoA and the best Tank so far has been the Warrior Tank ... the Issue is some people prefer believe the Ele builds are better for some areas.

Keep in mind that as a Tank you will Die in DoA, many, many, many, times.

The warrior can buff his health up pretty high, and works very nicely as a tank there. It won't be fun though since as aggro manager you will be blamed for everything that happens (even when other people pull the aggro away from you. ) Have fun.

There are a couple of specific areas where the Obsidian Flesh tank shines (namely, the cave in Ravenheart Gloom). Elsewhere, you can tank with all sorts of characters. Elementalists are the best 'pure' tanks (Obsidian Flesh plus virtually eliminating all damage), while Warriors are better for damage + tanking. Much of it comes from who and how you trust your team with off-character defenses to keep the tank alive.

In general though you can only really afford a single melee guy / tank, there are just too many spots where the second is a liability.

Peace,
-CxE

The Warrior lasts longer without being enchanted to hell, and he doesn't take the 50% movement penalty that Obsflesh imposes. Stuff like defensive stances and Signet of Stamina+Endure/Defy Pain also means he'll survive longer if things Go Wrong (ie. his prots get stripped).

The Obsidian tank is a bit more offensive, since you're running 14~16 earth (and potentially Glyph of Elemental Power on top of that). You can bring point-blank nukes, wards, or just tons of armor enchantments. If you combine Obsidian Flesh with Armor of Earth and Kinetic Armor at 18 earth ... it's a hell of a lot of armor, and you can maintain everything by putting on Channeling and spamming stone daggers. The main weakness is the reliance on enchantments (if you get stripped or interrupted, you're done), and the mobility penalty imposed by Obsflesh.

In stygian veil with toucher mob.


signet of Stimina + endure pain tank > obsidian

other place, go with geo tank + stone flesh

Actually, I believe there are Chillblain titans in Foundry also. They will kill your earth ele in a blink.
Which is why we ditched using geomancer to tank, and instead had the Warrior tank out.

In Stygian, we used Sig stamina + Endure Pain + Defy Pain + Bonds/Barrier/Balthazar/Essence + Symbiosis.

Needless to say, his HP was pretty rediculous.
Only problem with that is, grenth balance..... hurts.....like...a....mother... *dies*

In Gloom and City, an OF Tank is better, but in the other two, warriors can be very useful. You can still get a group for Gloom and City though, since there aren't many OF Tanks, and a Warrior will do most of the time.

Quote: Originally Posted by aohige

I run this and have beaten all 4 overlords on my warrior with my build.

The Tanko Build--

Bonetti's Defense
Armor of Earth
StoneFlesh Aura
Dolyak Signet
Lightbringers Signet
Lightbringers Gaze
Signet Of stamina
Ward Against Melee or foes

Earth Magic 12
Strength 14
Tactics 3
Lightbringers Signet and bonettis are for energy and Have a monk with SB

With spell breaker and heal party on a monk you can tank for hours with taking Zero Damage from anything in game except degs and armor negating damage ergo the touchers inwhich you would have to change out lightbringers for charge and just have team spread out and run around
My hp is around 900

Something like Lucifer's build, but with ObsidianFlesh instead of Signet, since you have 12 earth. QZ+Weapon of Quickening = win.

depends what build your group is... some group take dervish as tank, well with the right skill war is always the best tank.

Quote: Originally Posted by Etrik

Quote: Originally Posted by Lucifer PVP

Mwuaahhahahhaha the day has finally come when elementalists have eliminated the use for tanks!
*off to plot more plans*
/ontopic- since i havent been to doa i wouldnt kno, but it sounds like obsid tank are the way to go.

Not necessarily. Sins, Dervishes, Warriors can tank just fine too. And they eliminate the need for a WoQ rit too ^.^.